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Big Ten Talk: Just a theory

Big Ten Talk: Just a theory

By Chris Williams, CycloneFanatic.com Publisher

Iowa State to the Big Ten? The thought is out there. At this point, it doesn’t seem very realistic. But I think we all can agree it would be an absolute best-case scenario for Iowa State University.

Notice that I didn’t just single out Iowa State athletics. More on that in a minute.

All week long, Cyclone fans have heard it. Iowa Staters have essentially been called second-class citizens living in the “Hawkeye State.”

This morning, I logged onto CycloneFanatic.com and saw a website that had been created overnight.

www.ISUtoBig10.com.

Seems crazy right? I laughed out loud when I saw it. But then I got to thinking…

It is all but clear that Nebraska will be heading to the Big Ten. That’s what the Omaha World Herald and the Lincoln Journal Star are reporting at least.

Nebraska is a nice catch for the Big Ten. Nebraska is a national program that attracts a lot of eyes as far as television goes. I don’t blame Nebraska for wanting this. The Big Ten offers more money and ultimately, the Huskers won’t have to deal with Texas anymore. Regardless of what Tom Osborne says, it is hard for me to believe that isn’t a big factor in all of this.

Notre Dame is reportedly considering finally joining the Big Ten. I’ve heard some media members say that “if Notre Dame turns down the Big Ten this time,” they won’t be asked again.

Yeah right. If Notre Dame wants in the Big Ten, they’ll get into the Big Ten. It doesn’t matter when it is. There will always be a spot for the Fighting Irish.

What does all of this have to do with Iowa State you ask?

It’s time to get hypothetical.

Let’s say that in two weeks, Nebraska and Notre Dame both join the Big Ten. Other than Texas, those are two biggest fish in the pond. If the Big Ten adds both schools, all of the sudden, television and money aren’t nearly as important in rounding out their 16-team league. That’s my theory at least.

Then, academics come into play.

I just took it upon myself to Google “top US land-grant universities.”

Of course, your Iowa State University is listed. Other Big Ten schools in the mix are: Illinois, Michigan State, Purdue, Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin and Minnesota.

This is obviously a focal point for the Big Ten. This is a spot where little ole’ Iowa State could help out the proverbial big boys.

Keep in mind that Michigan State president Lou Anna K. Simon did recently comment on how academics are going to be more important in expansion than most are giving them credit for.

Based off of some very loose research, here’s what I’ve come up with as far as the Big Ten institutions strengths academically.

Iowa: Medical, business and law

Michigan: Business and law, also medical

Michigan State: Agriculture

Purdue: Engineering

Ohio State: A very strong business school

Indiana: Law and business

Minnesota: Engineering

Illinois: Engineering

Northwestern: Engineering

Wisconsin: Law, medical and engineering

Penn State: Medical, law and business

What would Iowa State bring to the table?

Iowa State is a land-grant institution. Academically, Iowa State is strong in agriculture, engineering and veterinary medicine.

This is a long shot, but should Notre Dame and Nebraska accept, I can only imagine that athletic success and television eyes will mean much less to the Big Ten.

This is Iowa State’s only shot in my opinion. Even then, it is probably a long one.

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  • justcynn

    I think you are right that is a significant long shot, but for this to happen our Politicians and advocates need to get this issue framed – is this really all about Athletic Budgets and TV money? Money that is currently tax exempt? Do we really want to go down this road and make all of these moves with out consideration for the repercussions whether intended or not? You are right Chris that Iowa State is a school that could take the focus off the Athletic aspect of this and give the Big Ten Presidents the illusion this was not only about tv money. But for that to happen – it would require the debate to get framed and framed quickly. As far as Iowa goes, they should be praying for ISU to get in. They may thinking of themselves as a BCS Championship contender, but enter Nebraska, possibly Notre Dame and even Missouri or someone else – and their continued success is all but a sure thing. The Iowa political fall out of ISU being left out will put tremendous pressure on Iowa to continue an equitable home and home series. Like it or not I would guess at least 35%-40% of the Iowa vote is related to ISU Fans. Stop the talk of dropping ISU and what playing the game does for you, you will play us and yes it will be our super bowl if we are left out so there is a good chance you will lose some of those games (See CSU vs Colorado). If you are right that we will end up in the MAC- you can even pay to play us even when we come to your house…get over yourselves Hawk fans, you are soon to be left in the dust with major conf realignment as well by playing schools that historically would have beaten you like a drum just like Ohio State and Michigan have..

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  • Prone2Clone

    Good blog. It’s a long shot when you talk TV sets. Otherwise, I think Iowa State is one of the better fits out there for the Big 10, if not aruguably THE best. If the Big 10 adds teams and this is NOT just about money (which it more than likely is, unfortunately), then ISU is a strong candidate.

  • drednot57

    Don’t forget Architecture and Design, ISU’s very strong in that field. ISU also is one of the top two, or three universities in the field of Psychology and probably THE leading university in Child Psychology with special emphasis in research on ADD/ADHD, Autism and Asperger’s Syndrome. These fields are BIG feathers in ISU’s hat.

  • NURB

    Add Vet Med to Minnesota, too. They’re actually stronger than ISU in that regard. ISU has one of the first (if not the first, correct?) but they’re not the best.

  • bhawk326

    Chris, I think you make some valid arguments. Unfortunately, I think ISU is pretty far down the list even if this becomes much more of an academics discussion. Let’s say the Big Ten gets ND, Maryland and Rutgers, schools coveted for their complete profiles and the Big Ten looks at academic reputation much more instead of revenue and increasing the Big Ten network map. The candidates that would fit for this would be Pitt, Georgia Tech, Vanderbilt, Missouri and Iowa State. Georgia Tech and Vanderbilt gets you new markets (Atlanta and Nashville) with sterling academics. Pitt doesn’t get you any new markets, but very good academics. Missouri gets you new markets but okay academics (remember that MIZZOU is only 1 of 6 universities with colleges of law, engineering, ag, vet, law and med) which could still make them attractive. ISU gets you good academics but no new markets. Out of this list I think GT and Vandy are 1a and 1b, Pitt and Missouri are 2a and 2b depending on the Big Ten’s emphasis and ISU is a somewhat distant 3.

    Also, remember that many of these other candidates generate more money athletically to the conference than what their share from the conference would be. ISU will not, which means the Big Ten school would have to vote for a pay cut to bring ISU in. I think this would ultimately keep ISU from being invited if they are a serious candidate.

  • 4CY4EVR

    it will never happen. its all about $$$ an tv sets.

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