Originally Posted by jdoggivjc 
First, are you talking compacts or subcompacts? If it's compacts, you should be discussing the Chevy Cobalt, not the Aveo.
Second, Dodge stopped making the Neon 4 years ago - their compact vehicle is not the Caliber.
Finally, considering a Honda Civic only does 25/36 (
link) while a Chevy Cobalt is capable of doing 25/36 (
link) and Ford Focus does 24/35 (
link), your last statement is quite ridiculous as well. It's not that I'm so totally in love with the Big 3 - it's just come up with a valid argument instead of libelous, unresearched statements...
(your argument does hold for Caliber, however - it only does 24/29 (
link))
I was wrong on the Neon. I guess they only had it for around for 10 years without any major changes.
So what sub-compacts do the Big 3 produce besides the Aveo? Honda has the Fit and Toyota has the Yaris.
As far as MPG. How about we look at real world mpg.
Hyundai Elantra Beats Thrifty Toyota Corolla in Consumer Reports’ Tests of Five Small Sedans - Yahoo! News
Toyota Corrola-32mpg
Honda Fit 32mpg
Toyota Yaris 33mpg
Hyundai Elantra 27mpg
Chevy Cobalt 24mpg
Chevy Aveo 25mpg (With a 103hp motor)
As far as "libelous, unresearched statements". You don't have to do a lot of research to see that the Big 3 are far behind when it comes to small cars (both sub compact and compact). I agree that some cars like the Honda Civic should be getting better gas mileage but if you look at the car overall you can see that Honda/Toyota have did a lot better with their small cars than any of the Big 3.
