Brian says: May 15, 2012 at 12:37 am
Wow, that’s a lot of assumptions on your part. Let’s look at them.
1. “If FSU was leaving by themselves you have an argument. They’re not.”
Says who? FSU isn’t even leaving yet, and you already know that another school is going?
2. “They’re going to have regional conference mates”
Miami officials have said they have no interest in the B12. VT said they were happy in the ACC when SEC rumors came out. GT is highly unlikely to go to the B12 (lack of desire on both sides). None of the NC schools are going. At best they might have Clemson as a “regional” conference mate, but we haven’t heard anything from either side to show interest in Clemson to the B12. WV is almost 900 miles away and certainly not regional.
3. “and also be in a conference that cares about football.”
The ACC cares about it, and brought in FSU, Miami, VT and BC to prove it. Maybe the hoops schools would care more if the “football schools” would win more and thus inflate the value of the TV contract. In fact, half the ACC are football schools right now (Miami, FSU, GT, Clemson, BC, VT) and several more have decent football history. Even the upcoming additions have strong football resumes despite being better at hoops recently.
The B12 is more football focused, but it’s not like hoops aren’t important to many of the schools. The real difference is that the B12 has 2 FB kings and 1 hoops king while the ACC has 2 hoops kings and 1 FB king. Both have plenty of bad FB programs that don’t seem to make much effort to compete for titles.
4. “Also if this new playoff system involves some type of RPI/SOS component they stand a much better chance of making it to the playoffs in the Big 12 than the ACC.”
You can’t possibly know how good all the teams in both leagues will be in the future. Playing 10 ACC teams (including CCG) plus 1 strong OOC opponent should be just fine in terms of SOS.
What’s more important is winning 12 or 13 games, and they haven’t lost only 1 regular season game since 2000. SOS won’t matter if they lose 2 or more games every year. In fact, if you believe the B12 would provide a harder schedule then FSU is better off winning the ACC and hoping their SOS is OK than not winning the B12.
5. “The Big 12 will also consistently play in the in the playoffs where the ACC won’t meaning more money for the member institutions.”
Again, you have no idea how various teams will do. FSU and Miami could return to their peaks while UT and OU fall back into their 90s lulls. Then everyone would be saying the B12 was weak compared to the ACC.
6. “The whole academics argument is a red herring.”
Proof? There are a lot of people involved in these decisions and clearly academics matter to some of them.
7. “Nebraska didn’t move to the Big 10 b/c of academics. They moved b/c of money and that’s not a bad reason to move.”
Proof? Statements from NE indicate the lack of stability and perhaps some issues with TX were major motivators, and that the strong academics and cultural similarities of the B10 were important factors in choosing to join. Not losing money in the deal was significant, but getting a raise wasn’t the important thing. NE has to vest into getting full B10 money anyway, buying their way into the BTN. They could have asked the SEC and gotten full money right away.
8. “The cost of college football and athletics is rising.”
True, but not nearly as fast as the optional expenditures on CFB and athletics have been increasing. Schools don’t need to spend nearly as much as they have been to be successful based on the results at TCU and Boise and Utah.
9. “The disparity between the haves and have nots will grow”
People have been making this argument for 50 years. What’s so different about now?
10. “and if FSU, VTech, GTech and Miami would like to die on the vine than by all means they should stay in the ACC.”
You have zero basis for this. What those 4 teams really need to do is win more games, especially on the national stage. The ACC being 2-13 in BCS games, winning the Orange over a BE champ in the 2008 season and winning the NCG in the 1999 season over the BE champ (and now an ACC member), is what’s killed them nationally. Being in the B12 won’t magically change that.
11. “If they want to compete they need to move.”
Moving won’t make them competitive if they can’t win in the ACC now.