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08-30-2011, 03:54 PM #4711
re: *****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****
 Originally Posted by heitclone Exactly, people have such a defensive mentality against UT that they just have to be the ones to blame. While they aren't completely innocent here, they are only 1 of the schools to blame. I don't get why the other schools skate the blame. If this were KU, Kstate, ISU, or Mizzou crying fowl like A&M i could see defending them but this is a completely different deal. A&M is just as guilty as UT, but since they were the one to point the finger everyone sides with them. What do the tear ducts of chickens have to do with this discussion?
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08-30-2011, 03:56 PM #4712
re: *****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****
 Originally Posted by CtownCyclone What do the tear ducts of chickens have to do with this discussion? Maybe it's just me, but I thought the allegory was obvious...?
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08-30-2011, 04:55 PM #4713
re: *****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****
From Barking Carnival: Mondays In the Humidor | Barking Carnival Realignment Update
We talked to the Big Cigar about the situation here and nothing has happened as of now that has soured him on the information he’s passed along. He reported that the penalty to withdraw for A&M would be between $20-$40 million, and reports are out there now indicating that the number is $28 million and would be paid in withdrawn TV revenue. Check. He reported that the going would get a lot easier for the Aggies once Texas placated Baylor’s litigious appetite with some assurances behind the scenes. All’s quiet on the lawsuit front after some furious bluster earlier in the month from our friends in Waco. Check. The drop dead date for the Aggies to leave without incurring further penalties was September 1st. We hear that’s a check as of yesterday.
So far the report has been eerily accurate despite what you may hear from other sources. The only hole in the information seems to be Notre Dame and BYU joining or affiliating with the conference in some form but don’t be fooled by preliminary reports. BYU and ND are still very much in play.
We’ve heard the only problem for both schools aligning with the Big 12 is the other sports scenarios in the short run. ND is kicking around the idea of coming as a football only affiliate and leaving basketball in the Big East. This creates a problem for the Big 12 because BYU wants to honor its other sport commitment to WCC for the next three years, leaving the Big 12 in lurch as far as hoops goes in the short term because they’ll be one team short. If there’s a Big East implosion, then all of these issues become moot because Texas, UND, and OU will just start picking the like-minded crème de la crème programs around the country, but that won’t happen this year.
In fact, none of this is going to happen overnight so ignore the AD’s and talking heads for now. BYU, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, and Texas are VERY much in this together and have been contingency planning for over a year. Stay tuned.
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08-30-2011, 04:59 PM #4714
re: *****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****
 Originally Posted by isuno1fan From Barking Carnival: Mondays In the Humidor | Barking Carnival Realignment Update
We talked to the Big Cigar about the situation here and nothing has happened as of now that has soured him on the information he’s passed along. He reported that the penalty to withdraw for A&M would be between $20-$40 million, and reports are out there now indicating that the number is $28 million and would be paid in withdrawn TV revenue. Check. He reported that the going would get a lot easier for the Aggies once Texas placated Baylor’s litigious appetite with some assurances behind the scenes. All’s quiet on the lawsuit front after some furious bluster earlier in the month from our friends in Waco. Check. The drop dead date for the Aggies to leave without incurring further penalties was September 1st. We hear that’s a check as of yesterday.
So far the report has been eerily accurate despite what you may hear from other sources. The only hole in the information seems to be Notre Dame and BYU joining or affiliating with the conference in some form but don’t be fooled by preliminary reports. BYU and ND are still very much in play.
We’ve heard the only problem for both schools aligning with the Big 12 is the other sports scenarios in the short run. ND is kicking around the idea of coming as a football only affiliate and leaving basketball in the Big East. This creates a problem for the Big 12 because BYU wants to honor its other sport commitment to WCC for the next three years, leaving the Big 12 in lurch as far as hoops goes in the short term because they’ll be one team short. If there’s a Big East implosion, then all of these issues become moot because Texas, UND, and OU will just start picking the like-minded crème de la crème programs around the country, but that won’t happen this year.
In fact, none of this is going to happen overnight so ignore the AD’s and talking heads for now. BYU, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, and Texas are VERY much in this together and have been contingency planning for over a year. Stay tuned. Been doing this for over a year? So what about last years Big 12 reaffirmation? This just seems like total BS.
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08-30-2011, 05:04 PM #4715
re: *****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****
Still don't understand why BYU would like to honor its other sports commitment to the WCC when they could become full fledged Big 12 members NOW.
The OU, TU, ND super duper stupid (unless we are in it) conference would really throw a curve ball at the whole situation.
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08-30-2011, 05:05 PM #4716
re: *****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****
 Originally Posted by brett108 Been doing this for over a year? So what about last years Big 12 reaffirmation? This just seems like total BS. i dont know if this is a good or bad thing
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08-30-2011, 05:11 PM #4717
re: *****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****
 Originally Posted by brett108 Been doing this for over a year? So what about last years Big 12 reaffirmation? This just seems like total BS. They probably never trusted Aggie.
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08-30-2011, 05:12 PM #4718
re: *****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****
 Originally Posted by brett108 Been doing this for over a year? So what about last years Big 12 reaffirmation? This just seems like total BS.
They wouldn't be mutually exclusive. I read that as saying those four schools would use the Big 12 as a basis for their new super conference.
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08-30-2011, 05:14 PM #4719
re: *****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****
I'm not sure if we are transitioning to super-conferences or not but it looks like we may be transitioning to football-only conferences. That actually makes more sense to me.
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08-30-2011, 05:18 PM #4720
re: *****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****
 Originally Posted by jbhtexas +1 across the board....
Don't forget, aTm was a school that voted to bring in the Boise Humanitarian Bowl as one of the league's invites, and would later stay home rather than attend when they were in position to go.
I just don't understand why any conference supporter would feel sorry for the Big 12's bratty child.
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08-30-2011, 05:48 PM #4721
re: *****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****
 Originally Posted by isuno1fan From Barking Carnival: Mondays In the Humidor | Barking Carnival Realignment Update
We talked to the Big Cigar about the situation here and nothing has happened as of now that has soured him on the information he’s passed along. He reported that the penalty to withdraw for A&M would be between $20-$40 million, and reports are out there now indicating that the number is $28 million and would be paid in withdrawn TV revenue. Check. He reported that the going would get a lot easier for the Aggies once Texas placated Baylor’s litigious appetite with some assurances behind the scenes. All’s quiet on the lawsuit front after some furious bluster earlier in the month from our friends in Waco. Check. The drop dead date for the Aggies to leave without incurring further penalties was September 1st. We hear that’s a check as of yesterday.
So far the report has been eerily accurate despite what you may hear from other sources. The only hole in the information seems to be Notre Dame and BYU joining or affiliating with the conference in some form but don’t be fooled by preliminary reports. BYU and ND are still very much in play.
We’ve heard the only problem for both schools aligning with the Big 12 is the other sports scenarios in the short run. ND is kicking around the idea of coming as a football only affiliate and leaving basketball in the Big East. This creates a problem for the Big 12 because BYU wants to honor its other sport commitment to WCC for the next three years, leaving the Big 12 in lurch as far as hoops goes in the short term because they’ll be one team short. If there’s a Big East implosion, then all of these issues become moot because Texas, UND, and OU will just start picking the like-minded crème de la crème programs around the country, but that won’t happen this year.
In fact, none of this is going to happen overnight so ignore the AD’s and talking heads for now. BYU, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, and Texas are VERY much in this together and have been contingency planning for over a year. Stay tuned. I wouldn't be surprised to have Notre Dame and BYU join as football only right now and add one full member. And then in a few years, both of them will join as full members when BYU's full 3-year commitment to WCC ends and Big East either blows up or kicks out non-football schools.
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08-30-2011, 06:14 PM #4722
re: *****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****
 Originally Posted by brett108 Been doing this for over a year? So what about last years Big 12 reaffirmation? This just seems like total BS. You can't really blame them. I'm sure ISU has been making contingency plans as well. At least I hope to God they have been, even though this whole situation is out of our control.
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08-30-2011, 06:21 PM #4723
re: *****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****
It is Tuesday. TAM still sitting on the pot. Beebee should soon start charging to use the pot.
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08-30-2011, 06:38 PM #4724
re: *****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****
 Originally Posted by Al_4_State They probably never trusted Aggie.
Smart. Considering A&M had to be dragged kicking and screaming back into the conference following the Missile Crisis last summer...
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08-30-2011, 06:41 PM #4725
re: *****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****
After finding out about the "jar" there is no way we should let them back into the conference.
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