ISU on NIU's forum

[cyclonedave25]

Yeah it would be fun but the best bowl we would get every year is the little caeser's pizza bowl I would rather stay in a major conference.

Like Ball State going 12-0, ranked #22, and going to the GMAC bowl... Where they proceeded to get stomped by Tulsa 45-13.

[cyfan15]

It's obviously BS, but it just shows you the perception that people have. Most of the fans realize ISU is above MAC level, but for whatever reason schools like Minnesota and Indiana are seen as better than us.

[theshadow]

I was going to say we lost to UConn in 2002, but you are right, they were still independent. Is that really the only Big East team we've played?

If you consider teams that were in the Big East at the time of the game, yes.

Big East football has only been around since 1991.

[LindenCy]

If you consider teams that were in the Big East at the time of the game, yes.

Big East football has only been around since 1991.

Ah, that's why. Cool. I wasn't thinking about the history of the conference.

[SvrWxCy]

I was going to say we lost to UConn in 2002, but you are right, they were still independent. Is that really the only Big East team we've played?

If you want to go by our record against current Big East teams:

Connecticut: 0-1 (2002)
Pittsburgh: 1-0 (2000)
Syracuse: 0-1-1 (1957 & 1969)


Overall: 1-2-1

[LindenCy]

If you want to go by our record against current Big East teams:

Connecticut: 0-1 (2002)
Pittsburgh: 1-0 (2000)
Syracuse: 0-1-1 (1957 & 1969)


Overall: 1-2-1

Wow, even with those additions, I am surprised we haven't played more of them.

[bowlfan912]

If you want to go by our record against current Big East teams:

Connecticut: 0-1 (2002)
Pittsburgh: 1-0 (2000)
Syracuse: 0-1-1 (1957 & 1969)


Overall: 1-2-1

hopefully we make that 2-2-1 with a win over UCONN this year

[awd4cy]

I couldn't wait...

If Iowa State is MAC level then you would expect there to be a pretty good competition between them, what is Iowa State's historical record against current MAC schools:


21-4 with an average score of 32.7-18.8


Yes, it certainly appears we are MAC level... In fact, just to throw another interesting tidbit out there: Our historical records against conferences show that our 84% winning percentage against the MAC is the second highest against any conference, the first, the Big East where we are 1-0 (Pittsburgh in 2000).

Also, 2 of those 4 loses were under Chizik his first year.

[theshadow]

Wow, even with those additions, I am surprised we haven't played more of them.

You can even add teams that were in the Big East at any point (Boston College, 0-1) or participate in other sports in the Big East (Villanova, 0-2) and still not have a long list.

[Judoka]

It's obviously BS, but it just shows you the perception that people have. Most of the fans realize ISU is above MAC level, but for whatever reason schools like Minnesota and Indiana are seen as better than us.

Heck, even when NIU was having a great season last year nobody seemed to remember that we stomped them by several touchdowns.

We have a huge image problem. As you pointed out, nobody is going aroudn suggesting that Minnesota and Indiana and other lower tier BCS schools should be demoted. It's really only ISU, Baylor, and (to a lesser extent) K-State that get no love.

To be honest, I blame it a lot of the Chizik years as much as historical records, they are so fresh in everyone's memory and we were really, really, really bad.

[RING4CY]

Bring ISU and UNI into the conference to get to 16. Send Toledo and BGSU to the East.

No way I'm ******* sharing being in the same conference as UNI.

Their seating capacity barely meets FBS requirements.

[ISUCY23]

It's obviously BS, but it just shows you the perception that people have. Most of the fans realize ISU is above MAC level, but for whatever reason schools like Minnesota and Indiana are seen as better than us.

Im guessing it's that they are the dominant schools in their state, while we have a historically good D1 school in ours besides us

[SvrWxCy]

We have a huge image problem. As you pointed out, nobody is going aroudn suggesting that Minnesota and Indiana and other lower tier BCS schools should be demoted. It's really only ISU, Baylor, and (to a lesser extent) K-State that get no love.

A few records facts when comparing those teams and us:

ISU vs Baylor: 5-4
ISU vs K-State: 49-41

We've never played Indiana and the Minnesota record is not pretty from the days we played in the early 1900s.

[LindenCy]

Im guessing it's that they are the dominant schools in their state, while we have a historically good D1 school in ours besides us

Definitely true for UM, but not for IU.

[cyguytillidie]

Definitely true for UM, but not for IU.

Purdue really hasn't been that great recently in football, if that's who you are reffering to.