Many probably feel the same way

**CloneAbuse** · 09-04-2011, 12:06 PM

Thoughts on CFB landscape from the KSU rivals site...

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**jimmycy** · 09-04-2011, 12:11 PM

Could not have said it better....

**Cyched** · 09-04-2011, 12:13 PM

All of the tradition, nostalgia, rivalries, etc. going down the ******* because of greed

**dualthreat** · 09-04-2011, 12:15 PM

this is exactly what i was trying to say in the "we should drop UNI" thread

There are a ton of reasons why we should keep playing UNI. First of all, I love the game. Its kind of a rivalry game. A lot of ISU students and Alum obviously know a lot of UNI people, making for a great way to get together and tailgate and meet up.

The game always has a great crowd.
UNI is a great warm up for our schedule.
UNI is a team that will give ISU or Iowa their best shot.

College football is based on rivalries!! If we didn't play Iowa, UNI, Nebraska, K-state, missouri, etc. Who would we play? We would just be playing various opponents and winning and losing games. Kind of hard to describe, but college football is all about tradition and old rivalry games and playing teams geographically close to you and trash talking and bragging rights. Without all of that all your left with is ... playing some big east team.

**alarson** · 09-04-2011, 12:17 PM

Very well put.

You could say it all starts at rule #1 in the current realignment theory: no expansion in states that already have schools in the footprint.

Yes, this generates the most money, but it also guarantees that you wont create the types of conference rivalries that used to make CFB great.

Hell, take the solitary focus on tv money away and we're probably in the big 10. Geographically perfect (An incredible amount of close games), would be competitive (not top tier, but we'd compete just fine), and academically compatible.

We've had games that have been played for a century just flushed down the drain for some additional money to feed the continuing arms race in football, one that benefits all universities involved very little.

**skibumspe** · 09-04-2011, 12:23 PM

I'm sure that pretty much sums it up for quite a few fans right now....it's disgusting what the drive for greed & power can do to nearly everything in a person's life. It sucks when things like college sports, which for many is an escape from the headaches of everyday life, become a casualty of a few megalomaniacs desires.

**LindenCy** · 09-04-2011, 12:24 PM

Even when we went to 12 it was already feeling less cohesive. If it were financially viable, I wish the Big 8 had just stayed as is.

**CloneAbuse** · 09-04-2011, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by dualthreat

this is exactly what i was trying to say in the "we should drop UNI" thread

Our rivalries should be against teams in our own division of the sport. We should be scheduling a home and away with Minnesota/Illinois/Wisconsin. While we'd lose the tune up game, you'd create more regional rivalries outside the conference. The gate would be there for September matchups against those regional teams...

**cyspy** · 09-04-2011, 12:37 PM

I think what the Rice band did at Texas last night sums it up perfectly.

**Wesley** · 09-04-2011, 12:46 PM

OWH has dropped Clones as entertainment. And I care less what Nebby does with Chattanooga. Instead I wonder where the Daviid Boren plane is heading. It was more fun two years ago, but the day oif rivalries has been replaced by eyeballs on TV sets.

**brianhos** · 09-04-2011, 12:46 PM

This whole thing is turning me off for college sports. The thought of 16 team conferences is just horrible. College sports was better when it was 8 and 10 team conferences. Ahh well, at least if ISU joins CUSA or the MAC, I will save thousands a year.

**BKLYNCyclone** · 09-04-2011, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by brianhos

This whole thing is turning me off for college sports. The thought of 16 team conferences is just horrible. College sports was better when it was 8 and 10 team conferences. Ahh well, at least if ISU joins CUSA or the MAC, I will save thousands a year.

This... And I'll go back to being an Iowa fan.

**CloneAbuse** · 09-04-2011, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by BKLYNCyclone

This... And I'll go back to being an Iowa fan.

WHAT?!@# I grew up as a Hawk, and can never go back. I'll cease to be a CFB football fan.

I guess I'll have to take up political activism and start hounding our representatives over the non-profit status of the greedy bastards that have ruined the sport I love. After that, go after the cable/satellite providers for an a la carte mode of selecting the channels I want to choose from, and encouraging others that don't want to feed the greed machine to do the same, so the B1G/Longhorn/Pac sucking networks don't get the revenue they're banking on.

Right now they see TV sets as money, they don't care if anyone is watching because their money is bundled in for all to absorb. Screw that! Do you really think all 28 million TV sets in TX are rabid CFB fans (many are)? Eventually, our access to entertainment will be our choice as the mediums continue to change, the model they're using will not be sustainable in the long run...

**cytheguy** · 09-04-2011, 01:18 PM

Wow, that KSU fan nailed it. I've been trying to figure out why I haven't been as passionate or excited about this season starting. Every year around late July I start getting pumped up for the upcoming season, and by the first game I'm ready to explode. But, like the KSU fan pointed out, there's a hallowness inside this year. I'll still go to the games and cheer like mad, but because of all this realignment crap and being at the mercy of greedy SOBs like Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska and other big-time programs that decide what the rules are, I've lost a lot of interest.

**Tornado man** · 09-04-2011, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by cytheguy

Wow, that KSU fan nailed it. I've been trying to figure out why I haven't been as passionate or excited about this season starting. Every year around late July I start getting pumped up for the upcoming season, and by the first game I'm ready to explode. But, like the KSU fan pointed out, there's a hallowness inside this year. I'll still go to the games and cheer like mad, but because of all this realignment crap and being at the mercy of greedy SOBs like Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska and other big-time programs that decide what the rules are, I've lost a lot of interest.

Ditto for me. Well said.
Last night was a big-time atmosphere. We have a big-time fan following. And yet we're at the mercy of others regarding what our athletic future is...