Mizzou Presser

**Judoka** · 10-04-2011, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by LindenCy

What bugs me most is that now 3/8 of the original Big 8 will be out if they leave (3/7 if you want to go back to Big 7). This is a big rivalry loss in my mind.

All the easy day trips to games are disappearing as well. All this realignment stuff is killing the actual fans.

**SvrWxCy** · 10-04-2011, 08:25 PM

Many in Kansas City have to be very timid about any move to the SEC by Missouri. You won't be seeing the Big 12 tournament in Kansas City anymore and depending upon who we add in you may not see anything Big 12 related really occur in Kansas City. Also, media tension really heats up as previously when you talked Missouri/Kansas or anyone else nearby you were talking about Big 12 and you were obviously interested. Now you have to talk two different conferences and in time neither fan base will really care that much about the other to listen to SEC news or vice verse...

I truly believe that in the end Missouri (in their right minds) would want to stay in the Big 12 as that is what is best for their athletics and their school as a whole.

**Tank** · 10-04-2011, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by Mesaclone1

Two points.

First, they ARE genuinely looking into their options....that's a good distance from deciding to leave.

Second, doing as you suggest would remove any and all leverage aimed at forcing UT into some compromises.

Finally, a move to the SEC would gut the Mizzou football program far more than it would damage the Big 12. The Big 12 will simply slide in BYU...and perhaps a few more times and move along. Sure...it will hurt to lose Mizzou...but its something that can be recovered from pretty fast with a few additions. Missouri, in my estimation, will make what is a far better long term decision...and stay...rather than join Vanderbilt and Kentucky in the depths of the SEC. Of course, rationality is not always the driving force in these things...so anything is possible.

Let me add...that if the Big 12 should eventually crumble...Mizzou to the SEC moves ISU up a notch in the B1G pecking order. ONLY AAU schools are going to be considered for the B1G...and that group is getting very small these days...KU and ISU make good sense in terms of joining the B1G. Perhaps throw in ND and one other school if the Irish ever show interest (which is doubtful).

I know Nebraska was an AAU school when they joined the B1G but are not anymore. I don't think being a member of the AAU is going to drive any conference expansion. It is all about football and the $$$$$$$.

**LindenCy** · 10-04-2011, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by Judoka

All the easy day trips to games are disappearing as well. All this realignment stuff is killing the actual fans.

And I know you'll appreciate this: there goes another wrestling school. Big 12 wrestling would be down to 3, ugh.

**3GenClone** · 10-04-2011, 08:42 PM

This is either a terrible bluff by Mizzou or an idiotic move.

Doesn't Mizzou have to fork over their TV money to the Big 12 for 6 years if they leave? So Mizzou has the option to play in the SEC for 6 years at not only a talent disadvantage, but also a financial one? This doesn't make sense to me.

On the flip-side, what does Missouri hope to gain out of the Big 12 if it stays? Their AD has just went from figurehead of the Big 12 Board to Public Enemy #1. Any ideas of revenue sharing discussions can be thrown out since they have already been finalized this past week - so I can't see what their ideal outcome is.

Any way I look at it, any outcome for Missouri looks like a bad situation - is their any positives (for either outcome) that I am missing?

**Three4Cy** · 10-04-2011, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by LindenCy

And I know you'll appreciate this: there goes another wrestling school. Big 12 wrestling would be down to 3, ugh.

Even though it's a minor sport, gymnastics would be down to 2.

**rhillary** · 10-04-2011, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by 3GenClone

This is either a terrible bluff by Mizzou or an idiotic move.

Doesn't Mizzou have to fork over their TV money to the Big 12 for 6 years if they leave? So Mizzou has the option to play in the SEC for 6 years at not only a talent disadvantage, but also a financial one? This doesn't make sense to me.

On the flip-side, what does Missouri hope to gain out of the Big 12 if it stays? Their AD has just went from figurehead of the Big 12 Board to Public Enemy #1. Any ideas of revenue sharing discussions can be thrown out since they have already been finalized this past week - so I can't see what their ideal outcome is.

Any way I look at it, any outcome for Missouri looks like a bad situation - is their any positives (for either outcome) that I am missing?

Not true. They agreed in principle but haven't signed anything. If Missouri came out and said they were all in on the Big 12, everyone would've signed and we would've moved on as a collective unit. As it is now, everything is still FUBAR. Thanks Missouri, way to be awesome....

**ISUAgronomist** · 10-04-2011, 08:50 PM

Doesn't Mizzou have to fork over their TV money to the Big 12 for 6 years if they leave?

That has not been agreed to at this time.

**TXCyclones** · 10-04-2011, 08:59 PM

IF Mizzou goes just watch the Big 12 basketball tournament move to Jerry World in Dallas. He will be all over that. The basketball games held there went over big and he'll see an opportunity there. My vote would be to move it to OKC personally.

**acgclone** · 10-04-2011, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by TXCyclones

IF Mizzou goes just watch the Big 12 basketball tournament move to Jerry World in Dallas. He will be all over that. The basketball games held there went over big and he'll see an opportunity there. My vote would be to move it to OKC personally.

Oh God, you're right. I hadn't thought of that, but it would be all but certain. OKC would be acceptable, but Dallas would suck big time.

**rbrook** · 10-04-2011, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by TXCyclones

IF Mizzou goes just watch the Big 12 basketball tournament move to Jerry World in Dallas. He will be all over that. The basketball games held there went over big and he'll see an opportunity there. My vote would be to move it to OKC personally.

I say move it to the Well in Des Moines. If everyone has to travel south for football, then everyone can travel north for basketball.

**CyBroncos** · 10-04-2011, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by TXCyclones

IF Mizzou goes just watch the Big 12 basketball tournament move to Jerry World in Dallas. He will be all over that. The basketball games held there went over big and he'll see an opportunity there. My vote would be to move it to OKC personally.

I hate basketball in cavernous football stadiums...OKC would be a great choice for all schools involved

**InCytful** · 10-04-2011, 09:16 PM

If Missery blows their way out of the Big XII, I hope the remaining 8 are committed. Location of the basketball tournament isn't one of the things I'm worried about. JP and co still have a lot of debt to service and need that contract to stay intact.

**cyman1189** · 10-04-2011, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by Mizzoulander

In the next couple of days, we'll apply for membership in the SEC. Barring anything weird (and because it's Mizzou, that's not a given) they'll accept us as #14 shortly thereafter.

Consider our bowels emptied. Right on Bevo's head. :-)

good thing your bowels are emptied... itll make the reaming you are going to get from joining the SEC a little less messy and enjoyable for all.

by the way... good luck to mizzou on getting negus webster-chan... im sure he wants to play in the MBB cesspool that is the SEC

**terryk** · 10-04-2011, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by cyman1189

good thing your bowels are emptied... itll make the reaming you are going to get from joining the SEC a little less messy and enjoyable for all.

by the way... good luck to mizzou on getting negus webster-chan... im sure he wants to play in the MBB cesspool that is the SEC