More FSU/Clemson smoke

**cyman05** · 05-04-2012, 09:08 AM

Seems likely that if some "insiders" are truly leaking this, that they're using the B12 as leverage to see how much the ACC will give the football schools to stay before they pack up and leave...Hard to know what exactly to believe out there.

Details Of Rumored Big 12 Expansion With Clemson & FSU Emerge | May

...And I don't care if this is merged in the expansion thread or not...

**bringmagicback** · 05-04-2012, 09:15 AM

From the sound of ACC fans and media experts, this seems like a done deal to me.

**Cydkar** · 05-04-2012, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by cyman05

Seems likely that if some "insiders" are truly leaking this, that they're using the B12 as leverage to see how much the ACC will give the football schools to stay before they pack up and leave...Hard to know what exactly to believe out there.

Details Of Rumored Big 12 Expansion With Clemson & FSU Emerge | May

...And I don't care if this is merged in the expansion thread or not...

The ACC can't give what they don't/won't have.

**Bigman38** · 05-04-2012, 09:18 AM

how much per team is our current TV deal?

**cyman05** · 05-04-2012, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by Cydkar

The ACC can't give what they don't/won't have.

Uneven revenue sharing...ask Wake Forest, Duke, etc to hand over money to the Football schools for staying

**cyman05** · 05-04-2012, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by Bigman38

how much per team is the current deal?

I think the current ACC deal is 14-15 million/team/yr for all TV rights (tier 1-3). The rumored increase a few months back was $1-2 million with the add of Syracuse and Pitt, but some are saying it could get to be as much as 18 million. Even if they did get up to 18 million, ACC teams are likely leaving at least 8-10 million/team/yr on the table...and potentially a lot more depending on how revenue is distributed in the new playoff system.

The B12 current deal is in the process of renegotiation for Tier 1. It's really hard to say how much the B12 will be making in the future, but if you add FSU and Clemson it will likely be at least $25 million/team/yr + Tier 3 rights.

**State43** · 05-04-2012, 09:21 AM

Bring them on, we need more teams to beat the crap out of us.

**CYphyllis** · 05-04-2012, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by cyman05

Uneven revenue sharing...ask Wake Forest, Duke, etc to hand over money to the Football schools for staying

I think a lot of those programs are running in the red as is.

FSU just announced that their athletic budget is declining as well. With a stadium in bad shape, declining interest, player facilities located underneath the stadium, etc. - I don't think a kickback from some of the smaller schools is going to be enough.

**jdoggivjc** · 05-04-2012, 09:23 AM

First time I've heard $30 mil/school. Bring it.

**MNCyGuy** · 05-04-2012, 09:25 AM

It will be interesting to see how the ACC reacts to this if true. Were Syracuse and Pitt added as a cushion against poaching? Then they'd just stay at 12. Do they really want to expand to 14 to match the SEC, maybe eventually going to 16? Then you'd have to think that Rutgers and UConn are on the shortlist.

I kind of think they'd be smart to just stick with 12. If they start adding more teams to get back to 14, I think they kind of force the Big 12 and Big Ten's hand to add teams in order to keep up with them and the SEC. If that happens, the ACC has to know that the most attractive targets left all reside in their conference.

**MNCyGuy** · 05-04-2012, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by State43

Bring them on, we either belong in a BCS conference and welcome the challenge or we don't.

There, fixed it for you.

**Triggermv** · 05-04-2012, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by cyman05

Seems likely that if some "insiders" are truly leaking this, that they're using the B12 as leverage to see how much the ACC will give the football schools to stay before they pack up and leave...Hard to know what exactly to believe out there.

Details Of Rumored Big 12 Expansion With Clemson & FSU Emerge | May

...And I don't care if this is merged in the expansion thread or not...

You know what, I don't care if it is in ther merged thread either. I get tired of seeing that long thread all the time pop up with a new post, thinking something big may be in it, only to find some worthless post of somebody just trying to make the thread longer. To me, a new headline like this at least helps me decide whether I want to open it or not.

**Cydkar** · 05-04-2012, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by cyman05

Uneven revenue sharing...ask Wake Forest, Duke, etc to hand over money to the Football schools for staying

Still have to have a bigger pie to make those bigger slices work.

**awd4cy** · 05-04-2012, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by State43

Bring them on, we need more teams to beat the crap out of us.

Yea the ACC is so good, we wouldn't stand a chance against those teams.

**peteypie** · 05-04-2012, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by Triggermv

You know what, I don't care if it is in ther merged thread either. I get tired of seeing that long thread all the time pop up with a new post, thinking something big may be in it, only to find some worthless post of somebody just trying to make the thread longer. To me, a new headline like this at least helps me decide whether I want to open it or not.

+1