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    Chip Brown is back- expansion round 3

    Orangebloods.com - Realignment Round 3?
    Regardless of what you think of him, here is what he has to say, take it or leave it...


    And at Florida State right now, money is a problem. Warchant.com, the Florida State site on the Yahoo/Rivals network, reported May 4 that Florida State is facing an athletics department shortfall of $2.4 million for the 2012-13 academic year.

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    Combine this success on the field with the fact Florida State's basketball arena and football stadium are in desperate need of renovation, and the Seminoles are probably taking a hard look at the ability to launch their own TV network in the Big 12. Even with the new money from the ACC-ESPN contract, expected to provide an additional $4 million per year in revenue, Florida State is going to be hard-pressed to raise the kind of money needed for a major facility upgrade.


    And while there's some excitement that the recent success in Florida State sports will help spur a fund-raising drive, there is frustration in the fan base about a five-game home schedule this year against Savannah State, Murray State, Wake Forest, Duke and Boston College.


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    Could money end up being a driving force as Florida State decides whether to remain in the ACC? After having conversations with people dialed into the administration at Florida State, there appears to be a sense that the board of trustees at FSU might be willing to explore all options.


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    There is no doubt there is a growing sentiment in the Florida State fan base that a conference move to the Big 12 might be worth exploring. Many FSU fans have expressed their discontent on message boards and in social media. They complain about the ACC adding Syracuse and Pittsburgh - two schools that have been more prominent in basketball than football for some time. They complain about the ACC football officiating, including calls in last season's 35-30 loss at Clemson that many Noles' fans felt cost FSU a shot at the ACC title.


    But those are fans and message boards right? Fans don't matter in these equations right? Wrong...


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    And then you have to consider where the Big 12 would be on expansion. And if you were listening carefully when new Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby was introduced and was asked about expansion, he didn't talk about "a geographic footprint" the way interim commissioner Chuck Neinas did. Bowlsby talked about an "electronic footprint." Totally different.


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    For weeks and months, I had been told the Big 12 was good with 10 schools. Nine conference football games. Home-and-home in basketball league games. Good. No need for a Big 12 championship football game because it would only risk knocking a possible undefeated or one-loss team out of a national title shot with an upset.


    But last week I talked to some people who said, "Well, if it's the right two." And that was different from what I had heard before.


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    I was also told that studies had been done looking at what value might be added if any of the original members of the Big East (Louisville, Cincinnati, etc.) would bring to the Big 12, and that report did not come back favorably, sources said.


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    The Big 12 has repeatedly indicated to Notre Dame it could bring its non-football sports to the Big 12 and keep football as independent, allowing the Irish to keep their football contract with NBC while launching a Tier 3 network. So far, Notre Dame has indicated it's just fine. We'll see if Florida State does the same.

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    Re: Chip Brown is back- expansion round 3

    U no see monsterthread?


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    Re: Chip Brown is back- expansion round 3

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    U no see monsterthread?
    it's on boothill ..... thankfully

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    Re: Chip Brown is back- expansion round 3

    It isn't summer without Chip Brown and Realignment.

    Welcome to summer, everybody!

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    Re: Chip Brown is back- expansion round 3

    I applaud the starting of new threads. The big thread is terrible.

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    Re: Chip Brown is back- expansion round 3

    I can't wait until he starts tweeting how teams are gone and that its a done deal when nothing happens.

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    Re: Chip Brown is back- expansion round 3

    Ok, these type of realignment threads I don't mind since it doesn't lead to ISU being left out of a power conference. It is a nice change from the last two summers.
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    Re: Chip Brown is back- expansion round 3

    Quote Originally Posted by CysRage View Post
    Ok, these type of realignment threads I don't mind since it doesn't lead to ISU being left out of a power conference. It is a nice change from the last two summers.
    Just give it a month or two. Bowlsby will have us in the MAC in no time.

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    Re: Chip Brown is back- expansion round 3

    Quote Originally Posted by gocubs2118 View Post
    Just give it a month or two. Bowlsby will have us in the MAC in no time.


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    Re: Chip Brown is back- expansion round 3

    Quote Originally Posted by gocubs2118 View Post
    Just give it a month or two. Bowlsby will have us in the MAC in no time.
    Nope. We're headed to the Valley and UNI will be replacing us.


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    Re: Chip Brown is back- expansion round 3

    Quote Originally Posted by CysRage View Post


    I hope a was intended
    Why would I be kidding about a serious situation like this?

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    Re: Chip Brown is back- expansion round 3

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    And while there's some excitement that the recent success in Florida State sports will help spur a fund-raising drive, there is frustration in the fan base about a five-game home schedule this year against Savannah State, Murray State, Wake Forest, Duke and Boston College.
    That is a pathetic home slate. I don't know if I'd turn out to watch Iowa State play those teams if I were given tickets.

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    Re: Chip Brown is back- expansion round 3

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUAgronomist View Post
    Nope. We're headed to the Valley and UNI will be replacing us.
    That's true as well. I don't know much but I do know we won't be in the Big XII next year.

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    Re: Chip Brown is back- expansion round 3

    I believe Ga Tech and Maryland are both AAU schools...anybody know it that's correct. I realize its mostly about TV sets but it wouldn't hurt the image if the conference could raise its academic profile a tad.

    Florida State's a no-brainer...whatever problems they may have you take the...they're too big to let go without a fight. Likewise for Clemson though I don't know much about their academic profile...anybody got some good info that will save me a google search?

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