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Re: Do you want Notre Dame in the Big 12?
 Originally Posted by DistrictCyclone I didn't say "bigger"; I said better. And will this be the case in 10-20 years? Yes, I don't think you realize the value of Notre Dame, regardless of performance. They are a cash cow, and it doesn't matter how irrelevant they have been on the football field the past few years they are still every conference's dream school.
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Re: Do you want Notre Dame in the Big 12?
If it happens soon, ND will join as partial members. We'll be the BIG 12.5 after adding FSU and Clemson. The conference will mandate that after ND's NBC contract runs out in 2015 they would then become full members.
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Re: Do you want Notre Dame in the Big 12?
 Originally Posted by kilgore_trout not really. that girlfriend isn't as hot as she thinks she is. That's more Missouri. Notre Dame is more like the cougar that still thinks they are a hot 21 year old
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Re: Do you want Notre Dame in the Big 12?
 Originally Posted by CyFan61 What does that even mean?
And yes, it will be It means their fans are a bunch of whiny bandwagon hoppers, of which only about 1/500 actually went to school there. I shudder at the thought of them invading JTS.
I wouldn't be so sure that their fanbase remains as relatively large as it is today in the future. There are many factors working against this (size of the school, slow-growing local population, and of course their continued slide into football irrelevance).
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Re: Do you want Notre Dame in the Big 12?
 Originally Posted by AllIowaTeams He is welcome to try all he wants. They are never joining the Big 12. I will put any amount of money on the line that they will never join the Big 12. There is absolutely no reason for them to join the Big 12. They would get more money in the B1G or SEC, and they have no rivalries with the Big 12. It will never happen. You guys are beating a dead horse with the Notre Dame talk. I'm not trying to be Debbie Downer it's just not going to happen. I doubt they come to the Big 12. But its a possibilty at this point and you can't deny that. You sound like a butthurt Iowa fan if they do come. -
Re: Do you want Notre Dame in the Big 12?
I want a 10 team conference. That's not going to happen.
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Re: Do you want Notre Dame in the Big 12?
 Originally Posted by AllIowaTeams Yes, I don't think you realize the value of Notre Dame, regardless of performance. They are a cash cow, and it doesn't matter how irrelevant they have been on the football field the past few years they are still every conference's dream school. Where did I say that ND isn't valuable? I'm not arguing that point. The topic is whether we want them in the Big 12, and for various reasons, I say no.
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Re: Do you want Notre Dame in the Big 12?
 Originally Posted by DistrictCyclone It means their fans are a bunch of whiny bandwagon hoppers, of which only about 1/500 actually went to school there. I shudder at the thought of them invading JTS.
I wouldn't be so sure that their fanbase remains as relatively large as it is today in the future. There are many factors working against this (size of the school, slow-growing local population, and of course their continued slide into football irrelevance). You have no idea what you're talking about.
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Re: Do you want Notre Dame in the Big 12?
 Originally Posted by gocubs2118 You have no idea what you're talking about. Care to elaborate?
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Re: Do you want Notre Dame in the Big 12?
 Originally Posted by DistrictCyclone Care to elaborate? People already have.
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Re:Do you want Notre Dame in the Big 12?
I would love to have them for basketball, both mens and womens. Both very competitive, well coached teams.
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Re: Do you want Notre Dame in the Big 12?
 Originally Posted by DistrictCyclone It means their fans are a bunch of whiny bandwagon hoppers, of which only about 1/500 actually went to school there. I shudder at the thought of them invading JTS. I truly could not care less about any of that. Notre Dame joining the Big 12 results in a huge payday for Iowa State and a phenomenal feather in the Big 12's cap. They are the best possible addition for our conference.
Which game would Iowans rather watch... Notre Dame-Iowa State, or the famous Big Ten protected rivalry matchup, Iowa-Purdue? That could certainly fill up a 62,000-seat Jack Trice Stadium, paid for with the money we got from ND joining the conference....
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Re: Do you want Notre Dame in the Big 12?
 Originally Posted by AllIowaTeams He is welcome to try all he wants. They are never joining the Big 12. I will put any amount of money on the line that they will never join the Big 12. There is absolutely no reason for them to join the Big 12. They would get more money in the B1G or SEC, and they have no rivalries with the Big 12. It will never happen. You guys are beating a dead horse with the Notre Dame talk. I'm not trying to be Debbie Downer it's just not going to happen. tier 3 rights
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Re: Do you want Notre Dame in the Big 12?
 Originally Posted by CyFan61 I truly could not care less about any of that. Notre Dame joining the Big 12 results in a huge payday for Iowa State and a phenomenal feather in the Big 12's cap. They are the best possible addition for our conference.
Which game would fans watch... Notre Dame-Iowa State or the famous Big Ten protected rivalry matchup, Iowa-Purdue? Just another big name for CPR -
Re: Do you want Notre Dame in the Big 12?
I would love it, because South Bend is very close to Chicago and having ND would great for the conference. I just can't ever imagine ISU playing those d-bags though. I just can't imagine them ever rolling into Jack Trice, but then again, Texas had humbled themselves enough to come play us. Who knows.
But like everyone else said, it has to be equal. They can have their ND network and make X million on that, but everyone gets the same deal or I don't want them.
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