***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

[hurdleisu24]

Tell you what if The B1G went with UVA and GT and the SEC with NCST and VT if I was the B12 Id go and try and get FSU, Miami, Duke, UNC as 4 on my way to 16

[cygrads]

Tell you what if The B1G went with UVA and GT and the SEC with NCST and VT if I was the B12 Id go and try and get FSU, Miami, Duke, UNC as 4 on my way to 16

As I've always said the Big XII should offer a package deal to six of these ACC schools - Miami, FSU, GT, Clemson, UL, NCS or VT. UVA, UNC & Duke would never consider the Big XII. I think many of the ACC schools would go if they could keep many of their old conf mates with them.

[klamath632]

Why has all the talk shifted from Clemson to Miami? Unless we're talking academics, Clemson is a waaaaaaaay better get than Miami.

[isuno1fan]

Why has all the talk shifted from Clemson to Miami? Unless we're talking academics, Clemson is a waaaaaaaay better get than Miami.

Because Clemson has zero interest and Miami has no other choices. Also, FOX supposedly told the Big 12 brass that they will pay $$$$ for FSU/Miami, but not FSU/Clemson.

[cykadelic2]

Because Clemson has zero interest and Miami has no other choices. Also, FOX supposedly told the Big 12 brass that they will pay $$$$ for FSU/Miami, but not FSU/Clemson.

Clemson's options outside of the ACC are limited to the B12. Clemson may be showing no or limited interest now but if UVa/GT/UNC/Duke bolt, they will be actively trying to get in the B12.

Kind of weird about Miami, they draw poorly for their home games but they evidently still have alot of TV appeal. I would rather see Clemson and their 80K of home attendence in the B12.

[isuno1fan]

I would rather see Clemson too and we may someday, but for now the focus is supposedly FSU/Miami due to $$$ and TV partners. We'll see.

[cykadelic2]

Hawaii, Nevada/UNLV, or Utah State/Colorado State would seem like the best available schools for PAC 12 expansion.

The P12 has no viable expansion options outside of possibly BYU to reach 16 unless they swing a deal with the B12 to facilitate the formation of 4 16-team conferences in a new CFB superdivision as suggested here:

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[hurdleisu24]

I still think that VT ends up in the SEC and because I don't think that the SEC will take a school from a state that already has a member i think they would likely take NCST. The only way I see them not taking these 2 schools is if 1 they decide to take a school from a state that has a school in it if that's the case I think GT then Clemson would be the top 2 I just don't see FSU as a viable SEC school. The 2nd would be if they could get UNC and Duke in a package deal which would be great for when the SEC launches their network and also because of the likelyhood that the B1G wants UNC

[jdoggivjc]

Because Clemson has zero interest and Miami has no other choices. Also, FOX supposedly told the Big 12 brass that they will pay $$$$ for FSU/Miami, but not FSU/Clemson.

I don't believe this whole "Clemson has zero interest" BS. I just think Clemson is keeping its cards very close to its chest. Yeah, Clemson signed the $50 million buyout clause. I also don't think there was any way in hell they would have done so if they thought that amount would hold up in court.

[hurdleisu24]

I think the B12 may have talked to Clemson and they likly have talked to a number of schools. I think that maybe the Big 12 was looking at going to 14 or 16 in 1 swoop and that with all the talk centered on the 5 or 6 supposed schools in play for the B1G and SEC that the B12 was looking at who wants in badly and who just wants in.

[hurdleisu24]

Well with Boise St staying in MWC and the conference helping them pay the byuout to the Big East I wonder about San Diego St if they will stay or not and what does that do to the Big East they now have to add another school to get to 12 correct?

[Wesley]

Well with Boise St staying in MWC and the conference helping them pay the byuout to the Big East I wonder about San Diego St if they will stay or not and what does that do to the Big East they now have to add another school to get to 12 correct?

For BE to remain relevant, they need at least 12. They may need the yellow pages to fill that last slot.

[HFCS]

We're in a new level of cluster F right now with BSU and probably SDSU heading back to bring the MWC back up to 12 teams.

The CUSA has scheduled themselves to be 14 teams already. SMU, UCF, USF, Houston, Memphis, Cincy and UConn all out there blowing in the wind.

Does MWC go for Houston/SMU to 14? Memphis isn't a horrible fit. None of these schools are going to want to join the Sun Belt which is what the CUSA is now. Cincy/UConn need ACC in a bad way now.

Whoever doesn't join the MWC and ACC would be wise to try to start a smaller new conference given the options.

[Wesley]

Does BE slip in post season status if it drops to 11 teams?

[HFCS]

Does BE slip in post season status if it drops to 11 teams?

There's no AQ BCS Bowl bid for them in the next deal regardless of who they have or how many teams iirc.