***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

[DistrictCyclone]

In general I would agree, but in regards to the quotes Wesley posted, those seem pretty logical.

There are millions of people out there who can fling logical quotes at the wall and see what sticks; it doesn't mean he knows what he's talking about. I could say that, on 14 December of this year, it will snow in Philadelphia...if it happens, it's nothing more than a lucky guess. That sums up the Dude and his continuous stream of bull ****.

Who are his "sources"? Do any of his claims get cross-verified by other bloggers/writers/etc.? He's a false prophet...just some guy who claims to be important and uses the internet to perpetuate a his myth of legitimacy. He's the journalistic equivalent of a doctor shilling out ***** enhancement pills on late-night television. I loathe the guy.

[Rogue52]

Part of me wouldn't mind seeing the ACC sign a longterm GoR which would kind of screw over the Big Ten and SEC into a scheduling nightmare for several years.

Plus, we can all laugh at the Big Ten with Rutgers and Maryland.

[dunar]

Part of me wouldn't mind seeing the ACC sign a longterm GoR which would kind of screw over the Big Ten and SEC into a scheduling nightmare for several years.

Plus, we can all laugh at the Big Ten with Rutgers and Maryland.

I've wondered why the ACC didn't go hard for the GoR right after they grabbed Pitt and Cuse. Maybe they were waiting on a big payday that didn't materialize? Isn't that the motivation for UMD, $$$? (I know it's everyone's motivation in realignment, just seem to remember the numbers thrown around for UMD's justification were big...)

Who has a GoR besides the Big 12? I seem to remember B1G and PAC12, but SEC doesn't have one or need it, is that right?

[Rogue52]

I've wondered why the ACC didn't go hard for the GoR right after they grabbed Pitt and Cuse. Maybe they were waiting on a big payday that didn't materialize? Isn't that the motivation for UMD, $$$? (I know it's everyone's motivation in realignment, just seem to remember the numbers thrown around for UMD's justification were big...)

Who has a GoR besides the Big 12? I seem to remember B1G and PAC12, but SEC doesn't have one or need it, is that right?

B1G and Pac 12 have full GoR. Big 12 has GoR for 1st and 2nd tier media rights. 3rd tier media rights are kept by the schools.

SEC and ACC don't have anything.

[aeroclone]

There are millions of people out there who can fling logical quotes at the wall and see what sticks; it doesn't mean he knows what he's talking about. I could say that, on 14 December of this year, it will snow in Philadelphia...if it happens, it's nothing more than a lucky guess. That sums up the Dude and his continuous stream of bull ****.

Who are his "sources"? Do any of his claims get cross-verified by other bloggers/writers/etc.? He's a false prophet...just some guy who claims to be important and uses the internet to perpetuate a his myth of legitimacy. He's the journalistic equivalent of a doctor shilling out ***** enhancement pills on late-night television. I loathe the guy.

Just saying it holds up to the initial sniff test. A lot of the stuff that gets flung around in regards to conference realignment doesn't even get that far.

[Wesley]

B1G and Pac 12 have full GoR. Big 12 has GoR for 1st and 2nd tier media rights. 3rd tier media rights are kept by the schools.

SEC and ACC don't have anything.

What is the SEC channel?

[IAStubborn]

What is the SEC channel?

i have wondered this too. Is the difference the long term GoR...obviously they have media rights because they are selling them....

[Rogue52]

What is the SEC channel?

SEC schools allow the conference to negotiate their 1st and 2nd tier rights as a block, but they still reserve those rights meaning they can take them back and leave the conference at any point.

No one wants to leave the SEC though -- maybe Missouri if the Big Ten came calling.

[IAStubborn]

SEC schools allow the conference to negotiate their 1st and 2nd tier rights as a block, but they still reserve those rights meaning they can take them back and leave the conference at any point.

No one wants to leave the SEC though -- maybe Missouri if the Big Ten came calling.

I have wondered if vanderbilt may consider it too for academic reasons. If acc thing doesnt work out have to wonder if big 10 makes a big press on these two. Really they will be the only schools in contiguous states of their footprint available in that scenario. SEC would fix their scheduling problem and only lose one market and am sure their per school take would go up.

[dunar]

I have wondered if vanderbilt may consider it too for academic reasons.

In MHver3's update yesterday on the WVU Scout board, he claimed two schools had been approached over the weekend for B1G membership, one would accept, the other would decline. The rumor associated with that rumor was that the "no" was Vandy and the "yes" was UVa (either Twitter or in that thread, I forget...)

All good entertainment, I'll believe it when it actually happens and I'm watching ISU play football in FL, from the stands, and not in a bowl...

[hurdleisu24]

anyone heard if the Catholic 7 have made any inquiries into other teams joining that conference?

[Let's Go State]

I heard that the Missouri valley conference was going after Missouri Valley high school. An What Cheer because it sounds cool.

[Wesley]

Big East-Catholic 7 documents note $68.8 million in realignment funds - CBSSports.com

highlight the Big East's financial intake from the mass departures during the recent waves of conference realignment, including:

• Approximately $18.8 million in exit fees “on deposit in the Realignment Reserve Fund” by June. (Fees from West Virginia, Texas Christian and a portion of what Pitt/Syracuse owe.)
• Approximately $25 million more in the RRF by June 2018 (rest of Pitt/Syracuse fees, and balances from Louisville and Rutgers, which is in litigation with the conference. In October 2011, the Big East reportedly doubled its exit fee amount to $10 million).
• Approximately $25 million in entrance fees from 10 incoming members running to 2020. (This was before Boise State and San Diego State returned to the Mountain West Conference. Boise owes a $2.5 million exit fee, which also covers SDSU since the two came in as West Coast partners.)

Looks like BE is making money signing up and losing members.

[kingcy]

Big East-Catholic 7 documents note $68.8 million in realignment funds - CBSSports.com


Looks like BE is making money signing up and losing members.

DO they have to give 10% of that to the Church?

[snowcraig2.0]

This guy is one of the few 'bloggers' whom I place allot of faith in....


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