***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

[BloodyBuddy]

Any chance Texas is still in Play for the Big 10? Add the smaller market teams first so Texas can't bring their Baggage (Tech) with them.

[WooClone15]

I think it sounds like they would welcome Boise State and San Diego back with open arms.

Nevermind you're right. I read the part that said they liked 10 schools, but didn't see the other part about letting Boise and San Diego back in.

[HFCS]

Any chance Texas is still in Play for the Big 10? Add the smaller market teams first so Texas can't bring their Baggage (Tech) with them.

I've never understood it. Texas has pretty much refused to ever play a November game in Lincoln or Ames since the start of the Big 12...now they're going to leap at the chance to play in the frigid midwest five times a year in conference play? (It's been long enough that it's not just chance.)

I get why the Big Ten would obviously want them, but short of the Big 12 collapsing, the SEC saying NO, and independence not being profitable I don't see why Texas would ever join the Big Ten. The Pac 16 made much more sense when that was the rumor.

On top of all of this there's an undefeated Big Ten team right now that's only pulling a 3.25 BCS computer average because Big Ten SOS is so weak. The conference sucks so bad at football that they're going to struggle placing teams in a top 4 or top 8. The way things are trending Big 12 and SEC teams will have as much luck with one loss in a 4 or 8 team playoff as unbeaten Big Ten teams. It's the minor leagues and Maryland and Rutgers cement that.

[CycloneErik]

Are people just set on paranoid? Maryland and Rutgers choose to move, and we go into Texas hysteria?

[Bret44]

Are people just set on paranoid? Maryland and Rutgers choose to move, and we go into Texas hysteria?

MEAC here we come. We are Iowa State.

[Incyte]

Any chance Texas is still in Play for the Big 10? Add the smaller market teams first so Texas can't bring their Baggage (Tech) with them.

Please think before you type. I can't tell if your brain is set on paranoid or crazy.

[jbhtexas]

Please think before you type. I can't tell if your brain is set on paranoid or crazy.

Well, he's not the only one. It was reported on a Chicago sports radio station...

http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/forum/...ml#post3169034 (Maryland and Rutgers to Big 10?)

[Die4Cy]

Any chance Texas is still in Play for the Big 10? Add the smaller market teams first so Texas can't bring their Baggage (Tech) with them.

It wouldn't surprise me, honestly. The reality is that the B1G is increasingly a cable company that owns some collegiate sports properties. There is one huge national football brand that is potentially available, Notre Dame, and we know how much they pine to bring the Domers on board. What market would be the 16th and final market for B1G?

Of course, with the Big XII GOR and presuming ESPN's checks for the LHN don't bounce, there isn't really a reasonable scenario to make this happen. But maybe in another 10 years or so...

[JohnnyFive]

Why are people so sure the Big 10 teams are okay with adding a Maryland and a Rutgers? Yeah, they add a few households to the bottom line, but if I'm Ohio State or Michigan, I'm not on board with picking up bottom of the barrel athletics schools to add to what is already a shaky football conference after you get past the top teams.

As for any Texas team joining the Big 10, why would would any of them want to play a majority of their post October road games in frigid weather year after year. Unless a whole cluster of Texas teams go, that ain't hapennin.

[Die4Cy]

Why are people so sure the Big 10 teams are okay with adding a Maryland and a Rutgers? Yeah, they add a few households to the bottom line, but if I'm Ohio State or Michigan, I'm not on board with picking up bottom of the barrel athletics schools to add to what is already a shaky football conference after you get past the top teams.

As for any Texas team joining the Big 10, why would would any of them want to play a majority of their post October road games in frigid weather year after year. Unless a whole cluster of Texas teams go, that ain't hapennin.

The SEC has proven consistently that they are better off as a league when top teams can avoid beating each other up and the rest of their schedule allows them to get a couple teams to 11-1. Every league has bottom feeders, it's just that in this case everyone knows UMD is going to be it right from the get-go. B1G wants them for their cable subscribers, and they are cool with that.

Is KSU keen on the round robin with a top ten SOS this year, when a top 30 sked might have them cruising to the MNC?

These are considerations that must be made.

[scyclonekid]

Why are people so sure the Big 10 teams are okay with adding a Maryland and a Rutgers? Yeah, they add a few households to the bottom line, but if I'm Ohio State or Michigan, I'm not on board with picking up bottom of the barrel athletics schools to add to what is already a shaky football conference after you get past the top teams.

As for any Texas team joining the Big 10, why would would any of them want to play a majority of their post October road games in frigid weather year after year. Unless a whole cluster of Texas teams go, that ain't hapennin.

Wouldn't you think if this scenario happened it might hurt Texas recruiting since they would be traveling a long distance? They do get to play inside their own state for five games. They could not guarantee a lot of games in Texas like they do now. I just honestly think it would be a lose lose for them and to not freak out about it. If anything teams will want to come to our conference not the other way.

[Al_4_State]

Texas has so little to gain by joining the Big 10 that I don't see any way it happens. They will get none of their TV money for the next 13 years and will not play any in-state teams. They will be in a league that isn't good at football and requires a ton of travel.

If they were in danger of losing their seat at the table, or short on cash, it would make sense. But they aren't. Texas has yet to make a seemingly illogical move in all of this, and I don't see them starting here.

[scyclonekid]

The big twelve will not be the one getting picked on, if anything they are going to do the picking if they want to expand.

[DistrictCyclone]

You dont need to remind me Under Amor's founder is a Maryland Alum/ booster but did he ever say he was spending all his money on Maryland's athletics?? I didnt get that memo....What type of return on investment will he get?? I know this guy built his program off Maryland athletics but I highly doubt hes so thankful he will give them ALL his money, and even if he did I'm sure he would be pumped to have all his money spent on getting out of the ACC which maryland has built great bball rivalries with Duke and UNC just to get to the big ten to play northwestern, purdue, etc. in football?

I have a gut feeling that this domino is next, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them follow UMD into the Big Ten. Jim Delany has strong ties to UNC (played basketball and got his law degree there, met his wife there, kids go there, etc.), and they'd undoubtedly be a tremendous asset to the Big Ten. I would not be at all shocked if UNC along with UVA were the next two to be poached by the Big Ten; they have a rivalry, both are excellent academic institutions (AAU public schools), both are in growing states that offer a lot of strategic advantages to the Big Ten, etc. Hell, I wouldn't be at all shocked if the only reason they picked up UMD was to create a "bridge" to Virginia and North Carolina, since having contiguous states is apparently very important to the conference.

If it comes to pass, you heard it here first (probably not)!

[jdoggivjc]

The only thing is this round (as well as subsequent rounds for at least the next decade) are a lot more "fun" for ISU and the other "smaller" schools of the Big 12. Thanks to the GOR, the Big 12 is in a position of power and the fans can discuss which schools the conference might take instead of which conference might have mercy on us smaller schools. I know there's the traditionalists that are happy at 10 and don't want to change. It might be better to strike now and take a few less dollars for a few years but land the final death blow to the ACC instead of standing pat and being happy with what we have now, allowing the ACC to survive at a relative strength roughly equal to the Big 12 (because with UNC still in the ACC it's not all that dissimilar from the Big 12), and then a decade from now something unforeseen happens where the big schools of the Big 12 jump to the ACC, leaving ISU out in the cold. I absolutely agree that the GOR is a powerful thing, but its a hell of a lot more imposing with 13 years left on it than with 3, and if the ACC is still around then and somehow positions itself to be more desirable than the Big 12 then, then ISU is in a bad spot. I just think it might be better to kill the ACC now, even if it means a few less million dollars a year for a few years.