***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

[CarrollCyclone]

Lets not be dumb here, this was a direct shot by the ACC at the Big 12.

Louisville to*join ACC, replacing Maryland as league's 14th member - Pete Thamel - SI.com

From Pete Thamel at SI.com:

A source with knowledge of the ACC's discussions said a big reason that the ACC moved so quickly to add Louisville was that the Big 12 also had interest in the Cardinals.

Louisville was always considered a logical candidate for the Big 12, as it would give West Virginia a geographic partner. The looming question is whether Big 12 presidents feel pressure to expand from 10 schools now that the Pac-12 (12), SEC (14), ACC (14), and Big Ten (14) are all significantly bigger.

[chuckd4735]

Exactly. Can't these people read that Louisville is not bringing any money to the ACC? If they aren't making the ACC money, they sure as hell aren't going to make the Big 12 money.

This is the ACC's version of us adding TCU.

Like I said, the ACC failed big time by not adding U Conn.

[Al_4_State]

Some quotes from the ESPN article:

The ACC also considered UConn and Cincinnati for membership. However, sources told ESPN the league only wanted Louisville because there is a sense among league presidents that the ACC can add more schools at a later date if the ACC lost any other schools

The addition of Louisville will not affect the ACC's new media rights deal. When the ACC added Notre Dame in all sports but football in September, sources told ESPN the ACC's media rights deal was expected to increase to about $18 million annually.

It should be abundantly obvious why the Big 12 is not adding Louisville.

[brett108]

"We have to have "x" games in Texas every year to pull in Texas recruits"

What are we selling the great Florida kids each year that we pull in...

Culture of the states is completely different. Kids raised in Texas are taught that Texas is the greatest state in the nation, and that nothing else can compete with it. It is unlike any other state in that regard. The hubris makes recruiting Texas very hard if you are not going to give them a chance to play in the "mother land". Florida and most other states will have kids that aren't taught to hate all other locales, and will be much more open to pulling up their stakes.

[DistrictCyclone]

Louisville to*join ACC, replacing Maryland as league's 14th member - Pete Thamel - SI.com

From Pete Thamel at SI.com:

A source with knowledge of the ACC's discussions said a big reason that the ACC moved so quickly to add Louisville was that the Big 12 also had interest in the Cardinals.

Who's the "source"? TheDudeofWV???

Also found this interesting from the ESPN article...


However, sources told ESPN the league only wanted Louisville because there is a sense among league presidents that the ACC can add more schools at a later date if the ACC lost any other schools.

[chuckd4735]

"We have to have "x" games in Texas every year to pull in Texas recruits"

What are we selling the great Florida kids each year that we pull in...

I'm all for the Big 12 getting Miami and Florida State. My dream scenario would be to add Clemson, Virginia Tech, Miami, Florida State, UConn and Notre Dame.

[ISUAgronomist]

Culture of the states is completely different. Kids raised in Texas are taught that Texas is the greatest state in the nation, and that nothing else can compete with it. It is unlike any other state in the nation in that regard. The hubris makes recruiting Texas very hard if you are not going to give them a chance to play in the "mother land". Florida and most other states will have kids that aren't taught to hate all other locales, and will be much more open to pulling up their stakes.

It's so sad those kids are lead to believe such rubbish.

[BloodyBuddy]

I personally would have rather had Louisville than TCU.

Yeah, we screwed that up at the time. TCU was readily available, so we got them to plug the Hole that A&M left. We couldn't drop below 10 because it would nullify the TV contracts, and the conference may have fallen apart. So then when Mizzou left it took so long for all that to unfold because we had to get all our ducks in a row with WV, and they had to sue the Big East to get out immediately.

If we would have known Mizzou was gonna follow A&M, maybe we go after a tandem like WV and Louisville, but Mizzou was telling us they were committed, so we grabbed TCU since they were kind of in Limbo, and could get out of the Big East fairly easily.

[CLONECONES]

I'm all for the Big 12 getting Miami and Florida State.

This... Miami (barring bad sanctions) is on the verge of becoming a relevant team again, and combined with FSU the BigXII would have the entire Florida market minus Gainesville

[Al_4_State]

Yeah, we screwed that up at the time. TCU was readily available, so we got them to plug the Hole that A&M left. We couldn't drop below 10 because it would nullify the TV contracts, and the conference may have fallen apart. So then when Mizzou left it took so long for all that to unfold because we had to get all our ducks in a row with WV, and they had to sue the Big East to get out immediately.

If we would have known Mizzou was gonna follow A&M, maybe we go after a tandem like WV and Louisville, but Mizzou was telling us they were committed, so we grabbed TCU since they were kind of in Limbo, and could get out of the Big East fairly easily.

Exactly. Louisville is probably a little better add than TCU, but we did what we had to do to keep our TV contracts alive, and in the end healthy.

[ISUAgronomist]

Joe Schad ‏@schadjoe
ACC Presidents have agreement to disclose any contact from other conferences and source says it hasn't happened outside of Maryland

But ALL our sources....

Signed,
WVU bloggers

[DistrictCyclone]

Joe Schad ‏@schadjoe
ACC Presidents have agreement to disclose any contact from other conferences and source says it hasn't happened outside of Maryland

ACC Presidents must disclose any contact from other conferences.*

*Disclosure must take place within 2 years after joining the conference that contacted you.

[AllBig12Drinker]

TCU brings a media market we already own. ALL OF TEXAS. There was no market gain adding them. Find a city in Texas where you can't watch a Big 12 football game...

Signed the LHN,

Iowa State @ Texas 2012

[Clark]

ACC Presidents must disclose any contact from other conferences.*

*Disclosure must take place within 2 years after joining the conference that contacted you.

lol. good catch.

[ISUAgronomist]

Signed the LHN,

Iowa State @ Texas 2012

LHN is a myth along with everything being bigger and basketball fans in Texas.