***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

[jboffer]

Clemson fans think it's an announcement for their university's fundraising goals.

Yeah that seems to be the consensus.

But it was fun to speculate on anyway :p

[3GenClone]

Is clemson that good at football or basketball? I honestly don't know just curious.

In football they have won the most conference titles (14) of any ACC member (FSU is 2nd with 12 ACC football titles)

Clemson has never won the ACC title in Men's basketball

[crash_zone]

I'd take Clemson and FSU....or Louisville and FSU

[Gorm]

Clemson fans think it's an announcement for their university's fundraising goals.

Could be easily verified by looking at how they have handled those types of announcements in the past.

Seems like they are making a big deal just for a fundraiser.

[DistrictCyclone]

Clemson also canceled several home and away series today.

Clemson athletic director Terry Don Phillips confirmed that CU and Ole Miss had mutually agreed to terminate their nonconference home-and-home series, set for 2015-16. In addition, Phillips said that Clemson’s home-and-home with Oklahoma State, tentatively set for 2019-20, was also being cancelled.
It is a direct result of the schedule pressures applied by the ACC’s new football schedule, expected to go into place for 2013

Yeah...and OSU's reaction seemed very tame (I think it was "we understand")...maybe because they know they'll be playing Clemson plenty of times in the next few years

I'm either going to be jacked beyond belief tomorrow afternoon, or completely despondent.

[CysRage]

Someone would have been leaked it by now if Clemson really was announcing their move to the Big 12 tomorrow. It's been very quiet the last few days besides this announcement.

[EYEoftheSTORM]

Looking for a Coach Mann-esque let down with these Clemson rumblings....

But, Id still live for them to join!!!

[scyclonekid]

We are not expanding. If I am wrong I welcome them with open arms, but doubtful,

[DistrictCyclone]

Someone would have been leaked it by now if Clemson really was announcing their move to the Big 12 tomorrow. It's been very quiet the last few days besides this announcement.

You'd think, but maybe Bowlsby's warned people that they'll have to answer to Chuck "The Godfather" Neinas if they leak information.

[helechopper]

From the WVU board...

The unusual "event" is that John Swofford, the ACC commissioner, is meeting with the Clemson board tomorrow. Now, it isn't unheard of to appear in front of a member school's board BUT the circumstances this time are very unique. Swofford asked for this meeting about a month ago, he wasn't invited as is the normal protocol (he timed it during a regularly scheduled quarterly Clemson board meeting so as not to draw attention). Usually, the ACC office will freely discuss what is on the agenda when the commissioner goes in front of a school's board but this time, they won't even acknowledge that a meeting is happening. I know someone who asked David Wilkins, the chair of Clemson's board, about the meeting and he just said he had nothing to say about it (and in the past, Wilkins was more than willing to share info with him). This is not a typical meeting by any means.

Here is what the deal is.....about a month and a half back, Clemson made it very clear to Swofford how unhappy they were with the ACC TV deal and how they didn't like being in the financial hole that comes from being a football school in the ACC. Clemson made it very clear to Swofford that they wanted one or both of the following:

A. ND as a full member (much easier said than done but this explains why the ACC has made the recent full-court press for ND)

B. Bowl/Playoff $ not to be distributed equally to all conference members but for a disproportionately larger piece to go the team that actually qualified for the bowl/playoff (good luck selling that to North Carolina, Duke & Wake).

Apparently, this meeting is Swofford's last attempt & pitch to save the ACC and to explain the progress he has made on these 2 fronts and possibly what other ideas he has to close the financial gap between the ACC football schools and the Big 12 & SEC. It all goes down tomorrow. My contact feels that what Clemson has done is similar to what FSU did when it told the ACC representatives going to the meetings for the new playoffs to push for an 8-team playoff - they have put in a request that the ACC had little chance of satisfying so they can at least say they tried. Swofford has to work a miracle to save his football schools.

It is important to remember the animosity between Swofford and Clemson and how far back it goes. Most of you know that the ACC football schools were ****** about Cuse & Pitt being invited and this is true. The basketball orientation of the conference is very frustrating for schools like Clemson & FSU. However, this animosity goes back to the 80s when Swofford was the AD at North Carolina. Clemson got caught cheating and got hammered pretty hard by the NCAA. However, Swofford didn't think the penalties were enough so, in a meeting of all of the ACC ADs, he wanted the conference to impose additional penalties. Most went along with him but Maryland & Wake walked out of the meeting in disgust & refused to vote. It is safe to say that many of the old-timers on the Clemson board hate Swofford and won't be a receptive audience tomorrow. He definitely has an uphill battle.

I will follow up with more info as I receive it about how the meeting goes. I have no idea when it starts or ends.

source:

Scout.com: Swofford in Clemson tonight at Pres' home and meeting with BOT?

[CyBer]

I doubt we are expanding this summer.

[Bestaluckcy]

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Swofford is not Dan Beebe. This could get interesting.

[DistrictCyclone]

Clemson's "big announcement" was that their capital campaign has exceeded fundraising goals. BFD.

[CysRage]

Clemson's "big announcement" was that their capital campaign has exceeded fundraising goals. BFD.

No surprise. Like I said, if it really was a move to the Big 12, you would get all kinds of tweets from multiple sources. There's no way a conference change can remain so quiet like this.

[Let's Go State]

What is up with the rumors to the big 12 having to have a Conf Championship game for the Champions Bowl to happen???