***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

[aeroclone]

Depends on what the FOX execs think, but, by and large I think you are correct. FOX is paying the money for big matchups and that means FSU (and to a lesser extent Clemson) playing the other heavyweights. The inventory overall would be increasing by three games total and they are getting a bunch of higher profile matchups. As well as some flexibility in scheduling an occasional heavyweight out of conference. What it likely means is that ISU-Kansas, ISU-Baylor, and Baylor-Kansas and those kinds of games probably won't make the Tier 2 slate as often. If the money is going up to $30 million per team, is that something we can live with? I don't think there are enough quality time slots to support 54 conference games (12 team with 9 games each) much less 63 time slots needed for 14 teams at 9 games each. Imagine 16 teams with 9 conference games - an inventory of 72 games? I'm guessing that we would see a lot more conference games played in Week2, with the cupcakes coming in late in the year like the SEC has done just to make sure we have enough time slots available for the Big Dogs. I'm thinking that 16 team with a 9-game schedule would make for a huge electronic and media presence. If it happens, we need to be prepared for ISU to have a number of games not aired on T1/T2 each season, probably 2 or even 3.

Issues like this are why I just really like the 12-team model. If all of it leads to a playoff with greater than 4 teams in the future, I think we may all look back at this mess from 2010 forward as a shameful, unnecessary money and power grab. With a seeded 8-team model, you could have a viable BigEast and ACC along with the Big Four conferences and a couple of wild cards and have everything work out fine most years.

Exactly. You just need two or three good games per week to fill up the big money spots. After that, does it really matter if KU is playing Baylor that week as opposed to KU playing Rice?

[TheEncore]

So is anybody tracking those FSU/Clemson planes to Dallas?

This is where we miss Cyber:(

[dahliaclone]

FSU to Big 12 is a done deal...according to radio stations in Tampa. Hope this is true..

Florida State: Seminoles to Join the Big 12

[Wesley]

Curt Popejoy ‏@nfldraftboard Florida State: #Seminoles to Join the Big 12 http://po.st/dojNIq via @po_st @SportsBlogRT

[everyyard]

These links and tweets are all the same article. Fwiw.

[isuno1fan]

It's circular reports...I'll wait for someone of substance to report it.

[dahliaclone]

It's circular reports...I'll wait for someone of substance to report it.

Obviously. Not getting hopes up but worth posting regardless.

[cyfan92]

Believe it when a credible source says so

[Boxerdaddy]

Someone had to do it.

We'll start here:

Scout.com: Big 12 Expansion Thread Ocho---The Vth B...BOOTY!



Not sure I believe that with Florida State out there...

Obviously. Not getting hopes up but worth posting regardless.

Yes...keep posting....muhahahahhahahah

[Wesley]

The Dude of WV on WVU

Eric Barron can't change the fact that the ACC is the lowest paid of the major football conferences. He can't change the fact the ACC's reputation harms Florida State chances of reaching the playoffs in 2014. Barron can't change the fact that the Big 10, SEC and Big 12 covet ACC members and even the $50 million exit fee isn't enough to keep the conference whole.

More importantly Eric Barron can't change the fact that the new BCS playoff system begins in 2013 and the Big 4 are determined that the ACC isn't around to receive their share.

And then there were four palyoff teams in 2013....and four major conferences.....and ACC was not one of them...

[HoopsTournament]

Depends on what the FOX execs think, but, by and large I think you are correct. FOX is paying the money for big matchups and that means FSU (and to a lesser extent Clemson) playing the other heavyweights. The inventory overall would be increasing by three games total and they are getting a bunch of higher profile matchups. As well as some flexibility in scheduling an occasional heavyweight out of conference. What it likely means is that ISU-Kansas, ISU-Baylor, and Baylor-Kansas and those kinds of games probably won't make the Tier 2 slate as often. If the money is going up to $30 million per team, is that something we can live with? I don't think there are enough quality time slots to support 54 conference games (12 team with 9 games each) much less 63 time slots needed for 14 teams at 9 games each. Imagine 16 teams with 9 conference games - an inventory of 72 games? I'm guessing that we would see a lot more conference games played in Week2, with the cupcakes coming in late in the year like the SEC has done just to make sure we have enough time slots available for the Big Dogs. I'm thinking that 16 team with a 9-game schedule would make for a huge electronic and media presence. If it happens, we need to be prepared for ISU to have a number of games not aired on T1/T2 each season, probably 2 or even 3.

Issues like this are why I just really like the 12-team model. If all of it leads to a playoff with greater than 4 teams in the future, I think we may all look back at this mess from 2010 forward as a shameful, unnecessary money and power grab. With a seeded 8-team model, you could have a viable BigEast and ACC along with the Big Four conferences and a couple of wild cards and have everything work out fine most years.

Fox is adding new channel on August. They will have 5 networks for games. They want content to fill those networks.

[Wesley]

With the 2014 playoff system next year, conferences are now making their moves. I still think BIG, SEC, and B12 want to sllicee up the ACC and BE to make them impotent. Even Dodds can see that. ND may be back in play.

[Al_4_State]

FWIW, this rumor (at this point) seems to be starting much like MD to the Big 10 did: via radio stations in cities within the inviting conference.

[ImperialCyclone]

1) Florida State would be a huge get for this conference. The dominoes will fall at that point.

2) I am seeing one blogger from rant sports or something and a few radio people discuss this. I will believe this when legit sources start reporting it.

3) ISU will be fine in all of this

4) Expansion sucks. I heard KU was thinking about the B1G earlier and I hope that is not true. KU and ISU (as well as KSU) have so much history that it would be sad to see that go.

[kingcy]

Fox is adding new channel on August. They will have 5 networks for games. They want content to fill those networks.

There also is a rumor, which could be what you are talking about, that they are going to change Speed to a 24/7 national sports channel.