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Thread: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    if we added FSU, Miami, VTech and Clemson. That would be a fun fun conference to be a part of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyinne View Post
    It had something to do with the University of Nebraska Medical Clinic not having their research count for the university system and also the AAU changing their view and not counting research done with USDA agricultural funds.
    You are 100% correct..... Funny that they cannot count USDA funds.....

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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    .....do you guys hear that.... It sounds like the megathread.....

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    My takeaway from chip is ND lied to the B12 and went ACC. Just a takeaway.
    Looking forward to CFH magic for the next bball season, Georges style.

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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    Ideal situation: Florida State jumps, Clemson follows, Notre Dame sees the writing on the wall and follows suit.

    At that point I would want the Big 12 to add one more - Miami? - and call it good.

    Split the TX teams into separate divisions (2 in each) and same with the FL teams (FSU and UM). From what everyone said during the last round, OU and UT don't want to play twice, so put them in the same division. OSU in the opposite so we can keep protected rivalries. I bet Texas and Notre Dame would want to be protected.

    Quick take on divisions in this ideal situation... parentheses are protected rivals... everyone got someone at least semi-good except Clemson-TCU is kind of the Iowa-Purdue here.

    Division A
    Baylor (Texas Tech)
    Florida State (Miami)
    Iowa State (West Virginia)
    Kansas State (Kansas)
    Notre Dame (Texas)
    Oklahoma State (Oklahoma)
    TCU (Clemson)

    Division B
    Clemson (TCU)
    Kansas (Kansas State)
    Miami (Florida State)
    Oklahoma (Oklahoma State)
    Texas (Notre Dame)
    Texas Tech (Baylor)
    West Virginia (Iowa State)



    Division B is probably historically stronger but what the hell this is my perfect world and I'm running with it.
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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2012/12/ncaa-week- 14-record-low-again-for-acc-title-game-c-usa-down- big/

    For the second straight year, overnight ratings hit record-low levels for the ACC Championship Game.

    Saturday’s Florida State/Georgia Tech ACC Championship Game drew a 1.4 overnight rating on ESPN, down 18% from Clemson/Virginia Tech last year (1.7), and down 30% from Virginia Tech/Florida State in 2010 (2.0).The 1.4 overnight is the lowest in the history of the ACC Championship Game (dates back to 2005).
    Florida State/Georgia Tech was outdrawn head-to-head by Texas/Kansas State on ABC’s “Saturday Night Football” (3.3) and the Wisconsin/Nebraska Big Ten Championship Game on FOX (2.5).
    In other conference championship action, ESPN2 drew a mere 0.5 overnight for Saturday’s UCF/Tulsa Conference USA Championship Game, down 84% from Southern Miss/Houston on ABC last year (3.1). Friday’s Northern Illinois/Kent State MAC Championship Game drew a 0.9.
    The top college football game of the weekend on ESPN or ESPN2 was Saturday’s Noon ET Oklahoma/TCU game, which earned a 2.5.

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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN UConn AD Warde Manuel: "If another conference wants to talk to us, we'll talk to them"

    I feel for these guys

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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy View Post
    Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN UConn AD Warde Manuel: "If another conference wants to talk to us, we'll talk to them"

    I feel for these guys
    I do as well but aren't their fans jerks?
    "Missouri is free to create an enduring basketball rivalry with Auburn."

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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy View Post
    Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN UConn AD Warde Manuel: "If another conference wants to talk to us, we'll talk to them"

    I feel for these guys
    They are in a tough situation...but I hope they end up in the Big Ten and not our league! I have no idea if the Big Ten wants them...but they are made for each other! Both institutions think mighty highly of themselves!
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy View Post
    Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN UConn AD Warde Manuel: "If another conference wants to talk to us, we'll talk to them"

    I feel for these guys
    They tried to murder Cy. **** them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyfanatic View Post
    They are in a tough situation...but I hope they end up in the Big Ten and not our league! I have no idea if the Big Ten wants them...but they are made for each other! Both institutions think mighty highly of themselves!
    Pretty sure the B1G dislikes UCONNs academics, which probably hurts their chances in the ACC. However the ACC might just have to take anyone with a pulse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyhiphopp View Post
    Pretty sure the B1G dislikes UCONNs academics, which probably hurts their chances in the ACC. However the ACC might just have to take anyone with a pulse.
    I think you are correct...

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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    Quote Originally Posted by cyhiphopp View Post
    Pretty sure the B1G dislikes UCONNs academics, which probably hurts their chances in the ACC. However the ACC might just have to take anyone with a pulse.
    The ACC just took Louisville with it's awful academics, so I don't think it's a non-starter for adding UCONN. Only time will tell if they aren't up to par for BigTen execs. We know it's not because UCONN was the early leader to replace Maryland until (I think) the word spread that adding UCONN would be proverbial straw that broke the camel's back for FSU and Clemson.

    Nebraska gives the BigTen a bit of cover for adding non-AAU schools to the league, so I think that the BigTen will be able to move on teams without AAU status since these last additions will likely be the last ones for quite some time. If they are the right schools and markets, they will brush AAU status I believe.

    I think UCONN ultimately ends up in the re-tooled ACC after the mass exodus begins.

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    Re: ***OFFICIAL BIG 12 EXPANSION THREAD 2.0***

    Quote Originally Posted by CyFan61 View Post
    Ideal situation: Florida State jumps, Clemson follows, Notre Dame sees the writing on the wall and follows suit.

    At that point I would want the Big 12 to add one more - Miami? - and call it good.

    Split the TX teams into separate divisions (2 in each) and same with the FL teams (FSU and UM). From what everyone said during the last round, OU and UT don't want to play twice, so put them in the same division. OSU in the opposite so we can keep protected rivalries. I bet Texas and Notre Dame would want to be protected.

    Quick take on divisions in this ideal situation... parentheses are protected rivals... everyone got someone at least semi-good except Clemson-TCU is kind of the Iowa-Purdue here.

    Division A
    Baylor (Texas Tech)
    Florida State (Miami)
    Iowa State (West Virginia)
    Kansas State (Kansas)
    Notre Dame (Texas)
    Oklahoma State (Oklahoma)
    TCU (Clemson)

    Division B
    Clemson (TCU)
    Kansas (Kansas State)
    Miami (Florida State)
    Oklahoma (Oklahoma State)
    Texas (Notre Dame)
    Texas Tech (Baylor)
    West Virginia (Iowa State)



    Division B is probably historically stronger but what the hell this is my perfect world and I'm running with it.

    I think you are right when you put K State in the division opposite Texas and Oklahoma. They beat them both this year. Bet they get shipped out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bestaluckcy View Post
    I think you are right when you put K State in the division opposite Texas and Oklahoma. They beat them both this year. Bet they get shipped out.
    Bill the Dinosaur might only coach ten more years and then they return to fodder.
    Looking forward to CFH magic for the next bball season, Georges style.

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