TCU quarterback Casey Pachall failed drug test

**alarson** · 08-06-2012, 10:15 AM

I'll be honest and say i couldnt care less about a drug test if its not affecting their performance. And yeah, we probably dont want to cast stones, we've had a good number of players that probably were lucky not to get caught over the years as well.

**VeloClone** · 08-06-2012, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by clonestar12

He tested positive once out of 25 drug tests that have been administered over the last 2 year(I believe). It was for pot, but he admitted doing coke and ecstasy prior even though he never tested positive for those.

My comment was in jest. However, I highly doubt that all 25 tests in the last 2 years tested every one of the players on the roster. Most of those no doubt were random or selected tests where a handful of players were tested.

**clonestar12** · 08-06-2012, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by VeloClone

My comment was in jest. However, I highly doubt that all 25 tests in the last 2 years tested every one of the players on the roster. Most of those no doubt were random or selected tests where a handful of players were tested.

you may be correct...see link

http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/08...y-pachall.html

**heitclone** · 08-06-2012, 10:51 AM

Why are athletes tested for things that aren't going to give them an advantage on the field. Is pot a performance enhancing drug now?

**VeloClone** · 08-06-2012, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by clonestar12

You can highly doubt it all you want, but it was reported that he was tested 25 times.

Got a link for that? Neither of the linked articles say that. One says they had 25 drug tests but doesn't say that Pachall was tested 25 times anywhere I can see. I haven't been able to find that tidbit anywhere else when I search either. I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm just saying I haven't seen that anywhere. Thanks in advance.

EDIT: posted before I saw your edited post above...

**CycoCyclone** · 08-06-2012, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by heitclone

Why are athletes tested for things that aren't going to give them an advantage on the field. Is pot a performance enhancing drug now?

No, pot is illegal...but there are narcotics that ARE performance enhancers.

**CloneAlta** · 08-06-2012, 11:56 AM

I find the comments to the article to be all too revealing of what the values are of many of TCU's fan base (certainly a small sample, for sure). I realize that the values of today are a lot different from my days in college, but to think that this is just "OKAY" and should not get any further attention just seems wrong to me. It is rather clear that the use of weed and other "recreational drugs" amongst the TCU FB team and students was rather commonplace. There are laws and NCAA regulations addressing this situation and these people think that violating those laws and regulations are not a problem???

**CykoAGR** · 08-06-2012, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by CloneAlta

I find the comments to the article to be all too revealing of what the values are of many of TCU's fan base (certainly a small sample, for sure). I realize that the values of today are a lot different from my days in college, but to think that this is just "OKAY" and should not get any further attention just seems wrong to me. It is rather clear that the use of weed and other "recreational drugs" amongst the TCU FB team and students was rather commonplace. There are laws and NCAA regulations addressing this situation and these people think that violating those laws and regulations are not a problem???

I'm not condoning drug use of any kind but to think that this is localized to TCU is naive.

I'm guessing that an alarming % of college aged students (as well as adults) would fail drug tests for illegal substances (pot, meth, X, coke and Rx drugs not perscribed to them)

**tejasclone** · 08-06-2012, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by CloneIce

I think a 2nd failed test results in an automatic suspension (remember Charles Godfrey on the basketball team a couple years back?). Hopefully if that happens to TCU's QB it happens a week before we play them.

If Pachall ever does get suspended, you can bet that he will return just in time to play us. That's how it always works.

**KnappShack** · 08-06-2012, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by cydline2cydline

Admitted he had done cocaine and extasy within the last year and pot 2 days before the drug test...my guess is there will be a second failure on the way...

Dude sounds like a walking party! Where was this guy when I was back in college?

**CLONECONES** · 08-06-2012, 01:23 PM

TCU quarterback Pachall apologizes for 'mistakes' | Dallas-Fort Worth Sports News - Sports Ne...

lol

**SpokaneCY** · 08-06-2012, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Cyballz

You all shouldn't be so eager to cast stones. The first positive drug test for something like pot usually just entails the athlete going to counseling, then the second one is usually a suspension. Guess what "suspended for violation of team rules" usually means?

The only reason anyone knows about this guy's positive test is he told the copsduring their investigation of the other idiots on the team. ISU has had more than there fair share of positive drug tests over the years with no suspensions handed down. How do you think Chris Allen ended up in Ames?

Boy howdy! The fact "we" don't hear of any failed drug tests at ISU should NOT be construed to mean we haven't failed a few drug tests along the way. This will be shocking to some, but the young men and women representing our university are cut from the same cloth of EVERY collegiate athlete meaning they might drink, smoke, have sex, do drugs, and do some really stupid things.

**Al_4_State** · 08-06-2012, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by heitclone

Why are athletes tested for things that aren't going to give them an advantage on the field. Is pot a performance enhancing drug now?

Only if you're Kobiayashi.

**Al_4_State** · 08-06-2012, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by SpokaneCY

Boy howdy! The fact "we" don't hear of any failed drug tests at ISU should NOT be construed to mean we haven't failed a few drug tests along the way. This will be shocking to some, but the young men and women representing our university are cut from the same cloth of EVERY college student meaning they might drink, smoke, have sex, do drugs, and do some really stupid things.

FIFY