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Re: Trouble for Billy Clyde?
I'm afraid Gillispie will be dismissed as coach very soon..I met him while I was living in El Paso Texas a while back. Not a bad guy was my reaction.
He had success as coach for Texas A&M and UTEP. Not trying to make excuses for the guy, but he has had some rough times.... Mother died of cancer in 2011, and issues with alcohol.
I don't think he is a bad person, nor a bad coach. Maybe the practices were excessive in length, and maybe he was hard on the players. But maybe that is what they need!! Kids now a days have this "sense of entitlement, where the think every thing is just given to them... Different generation I guess! What they don't realize is that hard work and sacrafices pays off every time.
I am in Coach Gillispies corner in this one. Unfortunately I feel he will pay the ultimate price and loose his job.
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Re: Trouble for Billy Clyde?
 Originally Posted by MNCyGuy So if this is true, that's basically the end of Tech being good at basketball any time soon, right?
Also, a little embarassed that I was one of those people that thought he might be worth the risk here when McDermott left. You shouldn't be embarrassed.
First, it was during one of the bleakest periods of Iowa State athletics any of us hope to ever see again. Mac was in over his head, and JP in an effort to save money, gave him a bad contract.
Billy Clyde was tremedous at UTEP, and A$M. He was a bad fit at UK. But that doesn't mean that the guy forgot everything that knew that made him successful. Plus you had Gary Thompson singing his praises, and that has always carried a lot of weight within the Iowa State basketball program.
The guy has a lot of demons, and it is fairly obvious that he has not hit rock bottom yet. In retrospect, it is good we avoided that disaster. But, when people were trying to figure out how to get rid of Mac, it was a nice diversion.
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 Originally Posted by BBHMagic I realize we don't know what is happening Lubbock but this just seems to be another example of how weak minded players are today. Gillispie has had a great career and is now suddenly an unbearable hard ***? I find that hard to believe. Players would rather be told how great they are instead of being made into great players.
Let's not forget that BCG coached at UTEP, which while a strong mid major, is still not a power 6 job. Plus, you have to recruit a special kind of kid that is able to live in ElPaso.
Then he took over an A$M team that had gone winless the year before. He won some games early, that gave the kids some belief. Plus, his best player, Acie Law, totally bought into what he was doing.
As we saw with Fizer in 2000, when your best player is totally on board with what the coach is doing, it makes the others go along. It also gives the coach some leeway to be a dick, as we saw with LE, and now with Billy Clyde.
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Re: Trouble for Billy Clyde?
 Originally Posted by mjhavlo76 I'm afraid Gillispie will be dismissed as coach very soon..I met him while I was living in El Paso Texas a while back. Not a bad guy was my reaction.
He had success as coach for Texas A&M and UTEP. Not trying to make excuses for the guy, but he has had some rough times.... Mother died of cancer in 2011, and issues with alcohol.
I don't think he is a bad person, nor a bad coach. Maybe the practices were excessive in length, and maybe he was hard on the players. But maybe that is what they need!! Kids now a days have this "sense of entitlement, where the think every thing is just given to them... Different generation I guess! What they don't realize is that hard work and sacrafices pays off every time.
I am in Coach Gillispies corner in this one. Unfortunately I feel he will pay the ultimate price and loose his job.
There's tough love and then there is breaking the rules to get there. I'm guessing that most schools practice more than they should. But I'm guessing few have 8 hour practices. I'm also guessing that most schools have players that respect their coach enough not to rat them out.
Let's not forget that people not on the team were very turned off by Billy G. The long time basketball secretary resignd a few months after he was hired. I believe an assistant coach left. Let's not assume that the kids aren't willing to put in the hard work.
Frankly, what those players describe makes it sound like Billy hasn't been able to beat the alcholism.
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Let's keep the man in his job. That's two wins for ISU!
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DistrictCyclone, When I posted there were 2 threads. I felt no need to read the second. When this thread got merged, my post got put in line behind the other threads.
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yikes. glad we didn't hire him. i really wanted him too.
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Man... we dodged a bullet... or bullet might not be fitting... more like dodging a nuclear detonation.
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Good grief. Even if only half of those allegations are true it seems they'll have no problem sending him packing.
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Re: Trouble for Billy Clyde?
 Originally Posted by brokenloginagain
this was yesterday from cnnsi as well: Texas Tech do-over?: Billy Gillispie sure does know how to turn over a roster. After bringing in 10 kids in the Class of 2011, six players transferred out of his program this spring. Six. When you throw in the graduation of one senior, that means Gillispie had seven open scholarships available. That still wasn't enough, because his recruiting class for 2012 was originally nine. It looked as if everything had worked out when Rodrigo Silva, a Brazilian native and a JuCo transfer, was forced to head home and turn pro due to a family situation, but Gillispie then added another transfer, Blake Nash from South Florida. I would give you scholarship numbers, but my calculus is a bit rusty. It's also worth noting that Wannah Bail, Gillispie's prized newcomer, left campus after one semester of summer school due to a reported academic issue
Read more: Kansas searching for a star, but still top dog - Rob Dauster - SI.com Wannah Bail? Is that for reals? Or a fake name they tried to get past the editors, like Heywood Jablomie. Regardless, sounds like a match made in heaven.
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Re: Trouble for Billy Clyde?
 Originally Posted by ISUAgronomist Good grief. Even if only half of those allegations are true it seems they'll have no problem sending him packing. They don't really have a choice at this point.
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Wow. I don't think alcohol can be blamed for that. There might be mental issues there. He's seems like a sadist that goes on power trips.
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My fav coaches were hard on his players and pushed us but they never were ******** to us. Billy G seems like a huge *******.
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Re: Trouble for Billy Clyde?
 Originally Posted by kingcy My fav coaches were hard on his players and pushed us but they never were ******** to us. Billy G seems like a huge *******. This. there's a difference between being tough, and being an *******
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