Big XII bowl record this bowl season

**GMackey32** · 12-30-2012, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by GoHawks

Are you Saying Conference wins? I don't think they go 6-3 in the conference but there overall record they would certainly have more than 6 wins probably 7

I'm saying overall.

3 non-conference wins. Plus Kansas, Iowa State (for argument's sake). Where is the 6th and 7th win coming from? Baylor? Tennessee's defense can't stop anyone, let alone the top offense in the nation
WVU? The game would be similar to Baylor
K-State? No.
Oklahoma? No.
Texas? No.
TCU? No.
Okie State or Texas Tech? Probably not since they have good offenses and decent enough defenses.

**cyclonedave25** · 12-30-2012, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by Clark

well yeah but the SEC has 14 teams to the Big 12's 10. I wouldn't say the Big 12's deeper just more balanced from top to bottom. If you took the top 9 teams from each league, the SEC has the better group of 9.

But the SEC doesn't have to play all 9 of those teams, like the Big 12.

**klamath632** · 12-30-2012, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by GoHawks

Klamath football isn't played on a computer, if it was we would have it decide who plays in the Championship o wait..... My opinion still stands Tennessee wins 3-5 Conference games in any other conference They played a really tough Conference schedule and were very competitive in a lot of the games.

And your opinion is worthless, as it isn't backed up by any supporting statistics. And yeah, no ****, football isn't played on a computer. If it was, ISU wouldn't have beaten Baylor or TCU, or lost to West Virginia. So... thanks for the stupid statement, Captain Obvious?

In a completely objective measure, however, Tennessee was only better than Kansas in the Big 12. Any more than one win in conference would be an upset victory. They couldn't pull it off in the #2 SEC conference, so what makes you think they could get two to four upsets in the #1 Big 12?

**HFCS** · 12-30-2012, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by Clark

well yeah but the SEC has 14 teams to the Big 12's 10. I wouldn't say the Big 12's deeper just more balanced from top to bottom. If you took the top 9 teams from each league, the SEC has the better group of 9.

So you completely do not understand what "deeper" means. Your definition of "deeper" aka "skim off the cream" is pretty much the opposite of what "deeper" means.

Up is down in Clark's world.

**GoHawks** · 12-30-2012, 11:11 AM

And your opinion is worthless, as it isn't backed up by any supporting statistics. And yeah, no ****, football isn't played on a computer. If it was, ISU wouldn't have beaten Baylor or TCU, or lost to West Virginia. So... thanks for the stupid statement, Captain Obvious?

In a completely objective measure, however, Tennessee was only better than Kansas in the Big 12. Any more than one win in conference would be an upset victory. They couldn't pull it off in the #2 SEC conference, so what makes you think they could get two to four upsets in the #1 Big 12?

If tennessee has the same schedule as Iowa state they beat baylor at there house same for West Virginia, and win at Kansas. Also they beat Texas Tech at home so there is your 4 conference wins and 7 overall. Guarantee Tennessee is the favorite during the season in all those scenarions I just listed. Sorry about the stupid statement I hope I didn't hurt your feelings.

**HFCS** · 12-30-2012, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by cyclonedave25

But the SEC doesn't have to play all 9 of those teams, like the Big 12.

They all get a bye week late in the season of their 8 game, skip 6 teams, confererence schedule. Alabama played a very poor game against Georgia Southern at home last year the same day OK State lost to ISU on the road.

There's a reason SOS generally goes Big 12, Pac 12, SEC, in that order.

**GoHawks** · 12-30-2012, 11:12 AM

As far as captain Obvious the only obvious point I'm making that anyone who covers college Football with a living would agree with is the Sec is hands down #1

**GMackey32** · 12-30-2012, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by GoHawks

If tennessee has the same schedule as Iowa state they beat baylor at there house same for West Virginia, and win at Kansas. Also they beat Texas Tech at home so there is your 4 conference wins and 7 overall. Guarantee Tennessee is the favorite during the season in all those scenarions I just listed. Sorry about the stupid statement I hope I didn't hurt your feelings.

Why do you think they would beat Baylor, Tech, and WVU? Tennessee's defense sucks balls and they don't have the offensive fire power to outscore another team, like Baylor and WVU do. Tech has a good enough offense and defense that they would beat Tennessee.

**klamath632** · 12-30-2012, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by GoHawks

If tennessee has the same schedule as Iowa state they beat baylor at there house same for West Virginia, and win at Kansas. Also they beat Texas Tech at home so there is your 4 conference wins and 7 overall. Guarantee Tennessee is the favorite during the season in all those scenarions I just listed. Sorry about the stupid statement I hope I didn't hurt your feelings.

**GMackey32** · 12-30-2012, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by GoHawks

As far as captain Obvious the only obvious point I'm making that anyone who covers college Football with a living would agree with is the Sec is hands down #1

Like Jeff Sagarin?

USA TODAY

**GoHawks** · 12-30-2012, 11:18 AM

Like Jeff Sagarin?

So how many points does Big 12's number 2- Oklahoma beat the Sec's 6 th best team- Texas A&m is 14-17 a fair Number?

**GoHawks** · 12-30-2012, 11:20 AM

Why do you think they would beat Baylor, Tech, and WVU? Tennessee's defense sucks balls and they don't have the offensive fire power to outscore another team, like Baylor and WVU do. Tech has a good enough offense and defense that they would beat Tennessee.

If Tennesse Was playing the defenses in the Big 12 they would have more than enough offensive firepower. The biggest discrepancy between the two conferences is on the defense of side of the ball not the offense.

**KFitzy87** · 12-30-2012, 11:23 AM

GoHawks=wsrgohawks?

**GMackey32** · 12-30-2012, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by GoHawks

If Tennesse Was playing the defenses in the Big 12 they would have more than enough offensive firepower. The biggest discrepancy between the two conferences is on the defense of side of the ball not the offense.

Maybe the SEC has the perception of such good defenses because many of the offenses are pretty inept. Maybe the Big 12 has the perception of playing no defense because many of the offenses are explosive. The biggest discrepancy between the two conferences is on the offensive side of the ball not the defense.

Also, regarding the bolded. It's hard to take your argument seriously with that glaring error in your post.

Look, we get it. You hate the Big 12 and its hard for you to even entertain the possibility of the Big 12 possibly being the best conference in the nation this year.