Texas vs Oklahoma

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Originally Posted by ISU22CY

Yep and soon you realize how many unoccupied seats there really are

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Yup. I'm assuming that those shirts didn't buy tickets.

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Originally Posted by CycloneErik

Yup. I'm assuming that those shirts didn't buy tickets.

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My guess is No, but who knows maybe we will start seeing the t-shirt drape technique to compete with Baylor's nice tarp for their football stadium seating

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Originally Posted by dahliaclone

For the past ten years or so, the south schools of the conference has seen big time drop offs in terms of attendance. Thank god the Big 12 tourney is in KC for the next few years. Texas schools really could care less. Tons of empty seats at OU, OSU and Texas games this year.

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Yup. The attendance at these games pretty much says it why the tourney should never be anywhere but KC. The tourney in dallas a few years ago was nothing compared to KC. Hell, the tourney belongs in des moines before it belongs in dallas again (and it doesnt belong in des moines at all).

Baylor should take note of this, their new football stadium could just have t shirts screen printed right on the seats. It might even look half full!

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Originally Posted by alarson

Yup. The attendance at these games pretty much says it why the tourney should never be anywhere but KC. The tourney in dallas a few years ago was nothing compared to KC. Hell, the tourney belongs in des moines before it belongs in dallas again (and it doesnt belong in des moines at all).

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I'd be interested to see the attendance averages for the conference to this point. I would be willing to be the top three are KU, ISU and KSU.

I was never at the tourney in Dallas or OKC but heard it was ok but nowhere near as many fans. So glad they decided to keep it in KC esp with Missouri not attached anymore. Makes the most sense hands down.

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Originally Posted by alarson

Yup. The attendance at these games pretty much says it why the tourney should never be anywhere but KC. The tourney in dallas a few years ago was nothing compared to KC. Hell, the tourney belongs in des moines before it belongs in dallas again (and it doesnt belong in des moines at all).

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I would never want it in Des Moines, then we would have to hear from the Texas folks how worthless Des Moines is compared to Dallas. Even though everyone and their mothers know Dallas was junk when it held the tourney

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Originally Posted by hexodat64

Baylor should take note of this, their new football stadium could just have t shirts screen printed right on the seats. It might even look half full!

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Why would you ever want to get rid of the tarp? I thought JP already had it in the works to put up the SEZ and cover it with a big old I State logo to really show how dedicated our fanbase was.....wait nvm we have fans that come to the games

These two teams have 1 B12 average PG combined between them and Myck Kabongo is back in Austin tonight. Oklahoma looks really deep and talented but they don't have a good PG.

This might be the worst D1 basketball game I have ever watched. Ever.

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Originally Posted by dahliaclone

I'd be interested to see the attendance averages for the conference to this point. I would be willing to be the top three are KU, ISU and KSU.

I was never at the tourney in Dallas or OKC but heard it was ok but nowhere near as many fans. So glad they decided to keep it in KC esp with Missouri not attached anymore. Makes the most sense hands down.

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From the WVU Big 12 board (Scout site):

1. Kansas: 163,000 (10) = 16,300
2. Iowa State: 128,614 (10) = 12,861
3. Kansas State: 122,474 (10) = 12,247
4. Texas: 90,539 (9) = 10,060
5. Oklahoma State: 89,695 (10) = 8,970
6. West Virginia: 61,491 (7) = 8,784
7. Oklahoma: 60,881 (7) = 8,697
8. Texas Tech: 96,763 (13) = 7,443
9. Baylor: 66,429 (10) = 6,643
10. TCU: 50,607 (12) = 4,217
AVERAGE - 9,622

Turnover City

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Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY

1. Kansas: 163,000 (10) = 16,300
2. Iowa State: 128,614 (10) = 12,861
3. Kansas State: 122,474 (10) = 12,247
4. Texas: 90,539 (9) = 10,060
5. Oklahoma State: 89,695 (10) = 8,970
6. West Virginia: 61,491 (7) = 8,784
7. Oklahoma: 60,881 (7) = 8,697
8. Texas Tech: 96,763 (13) = 7,443
9. Baylor: 66,429 (10) = 6,643
10. TCU: 50,607 (12) = 4,217
AVERAGE - 9,622

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Very telling that the top 3 pull up the average so far.
I would say 4, but I don't think Texas can get a ton of credit for that one, since they are so close to the average. Only 4 teams exceeding the average also seems telling.

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Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY

From the WVU Big 12 board (Scout site):

1. Kansas: 163,000 (10) = 16,300
2. Iowa State: 128,614 (10) = 12,861
3. Kansas State: 122,474 (10) = 12,247
4. Texas: 90,539 (9) = 10,060
5. Oklahoma State: 89,695 (10) = 8,970
6. West Virginia: 61,491 (7) = 8,784
7. Oklahoma: 60,881 (7) = 8,697
8. Texas Tech: 96,763 (13) = 7,443
9. Baylor: 66,429 (10) = 6,643
10. TCU: 50,607 (12) = 4,217
AVERAGE - 9,622

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Only one that shocks me is WV (I know they aren't that great) but what else do the fans have to do with their time?

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Originally Posted by CycloneErik

Overall, college basketball just doesn't draw well anymore.
It's my favorite sport. I wish it attracted more fans, but the tickets largely don't sell these days.

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That's true, but another factor people on this board have somewhat overlooked is the conference ISU now plays in. It's based in the Texas schools and Texas / Oklahoma have shown they couldn't careless about basketball recently.

We added TCU and dropped Missouri. TCU has the least attendance out of any team ISU has been in a conference with in the NCAA Tourney era. And before you cite Colorado, TCU's attendance is much worse than Colorado and has been for years. Just look at the numbers.

But, in general, yes college basketball is less popular these days. GIA used to be quite the intimidating environment. Now, Okie State has to give away seats to fill it vs. Gonzaga. That's sad.

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Originally Posted by CycloneErik

Very telling that the top 3 pull up the average so far.
I would say 4, but I don't think Texas can get a ton of credit for that one, since they are so close to the average. Only 4 teams exceeding the average also seems telling.

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Yeah, KU is doing work, tight middle, and TCU. You know, about Louisville..oh, wrong thread.
The Big 12 is 3rd overall.

ACC
1. North Carolina: 164,720 (9) = 18,302
2. NC State: 169,986 (11) = 15,453
3. Maryland: 155,941 (13) = 11,995
4. Duke: 93,140 (10) = 9,314
5. Virginia: 99,526 (12) = 8,294
6. Wake Forest: 71,943 (9) = 7,994
7. Florida State: 70,156 (9) = 7,795
8. Clemson: 65,779 (9) = 7,309
9. Georgia Tech: 71,856 (10) = 7,186
10. Virginia Tech: 57,476 (9) = 6,386
11. Miami: 27,256 (7) = 3,894
12. Boston College: 39,828 (11) = 3,621
AVERAGE - 8,962

BIG EAST
1. Louisville: 211,328 (10) = 21,133
2. Syracuse: 237,633 (12) = 19,803
3. Marquette: 141,628 (10) = 14,163
4. Connecticut: 89,523 (9) = 9,947
5. Pittsburgh: 121,495 (13) = 9,346
6. Georgetown: 89,113 (10) = 8,911
7. Cincinnati: 96,678 (12) = 8,057
8. Notre Dame: 103,381 (13) = 7,952
9. Providence: 71,862 (10) = 7,186
10. DePaul: 77,328 (11) = 7,030
11. Seton Hall: 60,794 (9) = 6,755
12. Villanova: 58,500 (9) = 6,500
13. St. John's: 59,858 (10) = 5,986
14. South Florida: 57,956 (12) = 4,830
15. Rutgers: 45,458 (10) = 4,546
AVERAGE - 9,476

BIG TEN
1. Indiana: 208,528 (12) = 17,377
2. Wisconsin: 182,799 (11) = 16,618
3. Ohio State: 175,590 (11) = 15,963
4. Illinois: 162,466 (11) = 14,770
5. Michigan State: 172,356 (12) = 14,363
6. Iowa: 155,907 (12) = 12,992
7. Purdue: 133,522 (11) = 12,138
8. Minnesota: 130,131 (11) = 11,830
9. Michigan: 129,639 (11) = 11,785
10. Nebraska: 93,111 (10) = 9,311
11. Penn State: 83,250 (12) = 6,938
12. Northwestern: 80,483 (13) = 6,191
AVERAGE - 12,523