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08-21-2008, 01:24 AM
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Here are my way-too-early Big XII predictions, I will probably flesh them out more tomorrow, but I got my excel spreadsheet up and running for this season, and this is how the teams filter out for me so far:
North:
1) Missouri 11-1 (7-1)
2) Kansas 8-4 (5-3)
3) Nebraska 6-6 (3-5)
4) Iowa State 6-6 (3-5)
5) Colorado 4-8 (2-6)
6) Kansas St 5-7 (2-6)
South:
1) Oklahoma 12-0 (8-0)
2) Texas Tech 10-2 (6-2)
3) Texas 9-3 (5-3)
4) Oklahoma State 8-4 (4-4)
5) Texas A&M 6-6 (2-6)
6) Baylor 3-9 (1-7)
Feel free to share your own. One week 'til game day!
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08-21-2008, 02:38 AM
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#2 | | All-Star
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Credits: 905,047 NFL: Packers | Originally Posted by AirWalke North:
1) Missouri 11-1 (7-1)
2) Kansas 8-4 (5-3)
3) Nebraska 6-6 (3-5)
4) Iowa State 6-6 (3-5)
5) Colorado 4-8 (2-6)
6) Kansas St 5-7 (2-6)
South:
1) Oklahoma 12-0 (8-0)
2) Texas Tech 10-2 (6-2)
3) Texas 9-3 (5-3)
4) Oklahoma State 8-4 (4-4)
5) Texas A&M 6-6 (2-6)
6) Baylor 3-9 (1-7)
Feel free to share your own. One week 'til game day! Where is Baylor going to get that win from? Also, I don't know why everyone thinks that Colorado is going to do poorly. They are returning allot of starters from a 6-6 season- and they had one of the best recruiting classes in the nation last year. If you switch Nebraska and Colorado, your dead on. Nebraska is in the same boat that ISU was in last year and Colorado the year before.
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08-21-2008, 09:00 AM
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Credits: 269,564 | Originally Posted by jaretac Where is Baylor going to get that win from? Also, I don't know why everyone thinks that Colorado is going to do poorly. They are returning allot of starters from a 6-6 season- and they had one of the best recruiting classes in the nation last year. If you switch Nebraska and Colorado, your dead on. Nebraska is in the same boat that ISU was in last year and Colorado the year before. You make a good point, but Colorado's schedule is brutal. I will probably have to go back and revise it.
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08-21-2008, 11:48 AM
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You may be right about the Baylor win, but that is the only way I could see Baylor winning a conference game. Can't rule out the upsets.
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08-21-2008, 08:37 PM
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I'd expect to be favorites against the clones. unless ya'll start out at least 4-1 and us 1-4.
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08-21-2008, 08:56 PM
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Credits: 977,769 Year: 2000 Degree: Computer Engineering MLB: Cubs | Originally Posted by baylrballa I'd expect to be favorites against the clones. unless ya'll start out at least 4-1 and us 1-4. You may be right about being favorites, but I would be surprised if we lost that game, unless you are VASTLY improved this year (I have to admit to not knowing much about Baylor). The closest conference game Baylor had last year was a 43-23 loss at home to Colorado. We were at least showing signs of life by the end of the year.
That said, I do think it will be close, but I expect we'll win.
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08-21-2008, 09:56 PM
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Credits: 1,610,739 | Originally Posted by ahaselhu You may be right about being favorites, but I would be surprised if we lost that game, unless you are VASTLY improved this year (I have to admit to not knowing much about Baylor). The closest conference game Baylor had last year was a 43-23 loss at home to Colorado. We were at least showing signs of life by the end of the year.
That said, I do think it will be close, but I expect we'll win. i don't disagree with that. I have very low expectations this year.
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08-22-2008, 10:33 AM
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North:
Mizzou - head and shoulders better than most in the league
NU - great offense + a top 50 defense = a trip to the Holiday or Alamo Bowl
CU - return alot of talent; could be a sleeper KU - brutual schedule, will still be good, but I see 7-5 or 8-4 ISU - playing better towards the end of last year and they get AtM, Baylor, and Okie St from the south, could get 6 wins with an outside shot at a bowl.
KSU - laughing stock
South:
OU - loaded on both sides of the ball
Texas - I'd be curious to see what Will Muschamp does with the defense
Tech - 8 or 9 starters return to a defense that was 3rd best in the Big 12 last year
Okie St - don't know much about the 'Pokes
AtM - could be a long season; spread style QB in an offense going to pro style
Baylor - With Briles as a coach, could be a team on the rise in coming years
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08-22-2008, 10:47 AM
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Credits: 1,755,412 Year: 2002 NFL: Chiefs | Originally Posted by ahaselhu You may be right about being favorites, but I would be surprised if we lost that game, unless you are VASTLY improved this year (I have to admit to not knowing much about Baylor). The closest conference game Baylor had last year was a 43-23 loss at home to Colorado. We were at least showing signs of life by the end of the year.
That said, I do think it will be close, but I expect we'll win. I think the Baylor game will be a good barometer on where this team is headed. It will be our first conference road game of the season, and I think it's must-win if we want to be a .500 team this year like a lot of people here seem to think we'll be.
Virtually any other team in the conference would be expected to win at Baylor, but many people outside of ISU fans are predicting a loss for us and I think with good reason. We've done nothing in recent years to show that we can win a conference road game, but I expect that to change. If it doesn't change this year, we might have a longer road to recovery than many people here seem to think.
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08-22-2008, 10:47 AM
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NU - great offense + a top 50 defense = a trip to the Holiday or Alamo Bowl
I know you are a nebraska fan and all garn but seriously?
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08-22-2008, 11:12 AM
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#11 | | Walk On
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Credits: 251,837 Year: 2012 Degree: Athletic Training NFL: Broncos NBA: Bulls MLB: Cubs | Originally Posted by garn91 North:
Mizzou - head and shoulders better than most in the league
NU - great offense + a top 50 defense = a trip to the Holiday or Alamo Bowl
CU - return alot of talent; could be a sleeper KU - brutual schedule, will still be good, but I see 7-5 or 8-4 ISU - playing better towards the end of last year and they get AtM, Baylor, and Okie St from the south, could get 6 wins with an outside shot at a bowl.
KSU - laughing stock
South:
OU - loaded on both sides of the ball
Texas - I'd be curious to see what Will Muschamp does with the defense
Tech - 8 or 9 starters return to a defense that was 3rd best in the Big 12 last year
Okie St - don't know much about the 'Pokes
AtM - could be a long season; spread style QB in an offense going to pro style
Baylor - With Briles as a coach, could be a team on the rise in coming years
I really don;t understand how you put Nebraska at second in the North  Personally i see nebraska winning 4-5 games. i just don;t know how good their defense can be after losing a few players from their already horrible secondary. MAYBE the guys replacing them are better, but i doubt it. I also don;t understand the statement "Great Offense" who is "great" on that offense??? you could really only say Marlon Lucky. My perdiction on Joe ganz is that Nebraska might be wishing they had Hawkeye QB Jake Christiansen by the end of the year. With that said here are my perdictions:
NORTH:
1: Mizz- i think that the tigers win the Big XII championship this year. with a heisman calibur QB and returning all but 2 starters (or something close to that) i don;t see them losing.
2:Colorado: I know some people are counting these guys out but with a good recruiting class last year and returnig majority of starters i think they have potential. these guys could just as easily plumit to the 4th or 5th spot if they don;t watch their back
3: Iowa State: I think Iowa state suprises ALOT of people and Gene Chizik shows his coaching ability and ISU fans are all finally on the same side of the fense of the firing McCarney arguement. i do worry about the D-line and linebackers a little but the Secondary has potential to be the strong point of the team. I think the O-line will be much improved and with Bret Meyer gone the team is already one step higher than last year
4: Kansas: i know people might think I'm crazy but i just have a really really big gut feeling that KU was a one year wonder team kinda like ISU's Humanitarian.com bowl team... if you can even call that year a success.
5: Tie: K-State and Nebraska: i already explained Nebraska but as far as K-state goes i don't know how reliable freeman is going to be under center. without Jordy Nelson to throw to i just don't see this as the Wildcats year. i don;t know much about their Defense so maybe it is really good and if that is the case i could possibly see them in the 4 spot. it will be a battle between NU and KSU for the bottom of the barrel in the north.
South: I dont know much in depth stuff about the south so i am going to sit this play out
so that is how i think that is how the north is going to shape up... feel free to criticize. | | |
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08-22-2008, 11:25 AM
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Credits: 1,529,643 Year: 2003 NFL: Falcons NBA: Magic MLB: Twins | Originally Posted by cyman1189 I really don;t understand how you put Nebraska at second in the North Personally i see nebraska winning 4-5 games. i just don;t know how good their defense can be after losing a few players from their already horrible secondary. MAYBE the guys replacing them are better, but i doubt it. I also don;t understand the statement "Great Offense" who is "great" on that offense??? you could really only say Marlon Lucky. My perdiction on Joe ganz is that Nebraska might be wishing they had Hawkeye QB Jake Christiansen by the end of the year. With that said here are my perdictions:
NORTH:
1: Mizz- i think that the tigers win the Big XII championship this year. with a heisman calibur QB and returning all but 2 starters (or something close to that) i don;t see them losing.
2:Colorado: I know some people are counting these guys out but with a good recruiting class last year and returnig majority of starters i think they have potential. these guys could just as easily plumit to the 4th or 5th spot if they don;t watch their back 3: Iowa State: I think Iowa state suprises ALOT of people and Gene Chizik shows his coaching ability and ISU fans are all finally on the same side of the fense of the firing McCarney arguement. i do worry about the D-line and linebackers a little but the Secondary has potential to be the strong point of the team. I think the O-line will be much improved and with Bret Meyer gone the team is already one step higher than last year
4: Kansas: i know people might think I'm crazy but i just have a really really big gut feeling that KU was a one year wonder team kinda like ISU's Humanitarian.com bowl team... if you can even call that year a success.
5: Tie: K-State and Nebraska: i already explained Nebraska but as far as K-state goes i don't know how reliable freeman is going to be under center. without Jordy Nelson to throw to i just don't see this as the Wildcats year. i don;t know much about their Defense so maybe it is really good and if that is the case i could possibly see them in the 4 spot. it will be a battle between NU and KSU for the bottom of the barrel in the north.
South: I dont know much in depth stuff about the south so i am going to sit this play out
so that is how i think that is how the north is going to shape up... feel free to criticize.  I don't see how you call another fan out for being completely drunk on Kool-aid when you're pretty intoxicated yourself. Third? Yeah, methinks we're going to surprise a lot of people as well, but I'd say 3rd is pushing it, especially when you just got done ripping someone else for picking second.
Anyway, my picks:
1. Mizzou
2. Kansas
3. Colorado
4. Nebraska
5. Iowa State
6. Kansas State
1. Texas Tech (gonna go out on a limb and say this is their year)
2. Oklahoma
3. Texas
4. Oklahoma St
5. Texas A&M
6. Baylor
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08-22-2008, 11:38 AM
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Credits: 931,684 NFL: Chiefs MLB: Royals | Originally Posted by cytech NU - great offense + a top 50 defense = a trip to the Holiday or Alamo Bowl
I know you are a nebraska fan and all garn but seriously? I've long thought that just an average defense in 2008 is good for an additional 3 wins from last year's win total. I've got NU going 9-3 losing only to OU, TT, and Missouri.
I could explain why I feel the way I do, but i'm sure you guy's don't want me to ramble on and on and on.
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08-22-2008, 12:52 PM
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#14 | | Walk On
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Credits: 251,837 Year: 2012 Degree: Athletic Training NFL: Broncos NBA: Bulls MLB: Cubs | Originally Posted by jdoggivjc I don't see how you call another fan out for being completely drunk on Kool-aid when you're pretty intoxicated yourself. Third? Yeah, methinks we're going to surprise a lot of people as well, but I'd say 3rd is pushing it, especially when you just got done ripping someone else for picking second.
Anyway, my picks:
1. Mizzou
2. Kansas
3. Colorado
4. Nebraska
5. Iowa State
6. Kansas State
1. Texas Tech (gonna go out on a limb and say this is their year)
2. Oklahoma
3. Texas
4. Oklahoma St
5. Texas A&M
6. Baylor
I'm not ripping first off, I'm telling like it is. And the only way ISU gets to 3rd is if Kansas has a bad year. If Kansas does well then they take third and ISU fourth. Also i think you might be on your own Kool-Aid for picking Tech to take the south
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08-22-2008, 01:12 PM
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Credits: 434,952 Year: 2000 NFL: Bears MLB: Cubs | Originally Posted by garn91 I've long thought that just an average defense in 2008 is good for an additional 3 wins from last year's win total. I've got NU going 9-3 losing only to OU, TT, and Missouri.
I could explain why I feel the way I do, but i'm sure you guy's don't want me to ramble on and on and on.
NU will be 3-3 when they visit Ames and I feel pretty good about ISU's chances against them. At best NU is a 7-5 team with .500 much more likely. I can easily see ISU, CU and NU all being 4-4 in the conference - hence the tie - with CU going 2-2 and ISU and NU going 3-1 before conference games.
My picks:
1. Mizzou
2. Kansas
3. Iowa State
3. Nebraska
5. Colorado
6. Kansas State
1. Oklahoma
2. Texas Tech
3. Texas
4. Oklahoma St
5. Texas A&M
6. Baylor
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