How hard is it to recruit to U of Texas?????

**Mr Janny** · 03-03-2009, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by JonDMiller

Why is S-C-R-I-P-T a bad word?

so is it a safe assumption that it is unblocked on Hawkeye Nation?

I will tell all my hacker friends!!!

**cybsball20** · 03-03-2009, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Tornado man

Don't agree. At all those schools, when the wrong coach is hired, the big winning stops. So coaching does trump tradition. No program can go into auto-pilot...

I think Ron Zook is example number one that no matter how much talent you have, you need to be able to coach...

**StormnClone58** · 03-03-2009, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by cybsball20

I think Ron Zook is example number one that no matter how much talent you have, you need to be able to coach...

i think charlie weis could be another one .... we should know by later this year ...

**KMAC_ATTACK** · 03-03-2009, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by StormnClone58

i think charlie weis could be another one .... we should know by later this year ...

But, at those extreme schools, for every Bill Callahan, there's a Pete Carroll.

Once that machine is up and running with a coaching staff it does run itself. I mean Texas gets raided every year for coaches and yet, the longhorns roll on....incredible.

**Tornado man** · 03-03-2009, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by KMAC_ATTACK

But, at those extreme schools, for every Bill Callahan, there's a Pete Carroll.

Once that machine is up and running with a coaching staff it does run itself. I mean Texas gets raided every year for coaches and yet, the longhorns roll on....incredible.

USC didn't do so hot under Hackett, Smith, and Tollner.
Texas wasn't anything like today when they had McWilliams and then Mackovic.
OU was a disaster under Blake.

No school rolls on under the wrong coach.

**superman_101680** · 03-03-2009, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by jdewaard

Put a guy like Mack Brown at ISU or Indiana. Does he have anywhere near the success that he has at UT?

As in Big 12 and National Champtionships? No, not even close. I think the chance of that happening with any coach given our disadvantages at ISU is slim to none.

**cybsball20** · 03-03-2009, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by jdewaard

Put a guy like Mack Brown at ISU or Indiana. Does he have anywhere near the success that he has at UT?

He had three 10 win seasons at North Carolina... not exactly a Football powerhouse...

**superman_101680** · 03-03-2009, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by cybsball20

He had three 10 win seasons at North Carolina... not exactly a Football powerhouse...

True, but they have been to 26 bowl games...not exactly the same level as us.

**cyhiphopp** · 03-04-2009, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by cybsball20

He had three 10 win seasons at North Carolina... not exactly a Football powerhouse...

They also have the advantage of having lots of in-state talent and the rest of the south as their backyard to recruit in.

I think there are two types of good college football coaches:
1. A coach that does more with less and coaches up his players. This guy plays to the strengths of his team and wins more games than many think he should. (Coach to the teams strengths sounds like some coaches we have heard about lately (crosses fingers.))

2. A coach that knows how to coach superior talent. Pete Carrol, Mack Brown... It actually does take some skill to get a bunch of big star recruits, who have had everything handed to them up until college, work to be a good football team. There are examples of coaches who have had more talent than their competitors and still vastly underachieved (see Miami football the past few years - the talent is down a bit, but still better than a lot of teams).

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