Who belongs?

**jaretac** · 08-29-2009, 02:41 AM

This was forwarded to me and I think it is interesting. Points were given to each Big 12 school (for the 3 most popular NCAA sports) based on bowls and tournament appearances, and conference and national titles since the founding of the Big 12. Here are the results (larger the number the better the school):

School........FB...MBB...WBB...Total
Baylor........0....5.....42....47
Missouri......13...25....13....51
Texas A&M.....20...13....20....53
Colorado......26...10....20....56
Oklahoma St...7....41....9.....57
Nebraska......44...10....16....70
Texas Tech....14...13....43....70
Kansas St.....26...16....32....74
Iowa St.......8....28....42....78
Kansas........9....101...19....129
Texas.........51...51....41....143
Oklahoma......74...53....63....190

**Aclone** · 08-29-2009, 05:30 AM

Never mind...

**CycoCyclone** · 08-29-2009, 06:42 AM

I spose a few bowl games and we did tie for the big xii north

**CyBobby** · 08-29-2009, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by CycoCyclone

I spose a few bowl games and we did tie for the big xii north

Of course we tied for the north division...Good old pinkie mizzou took care of my trip to KCity and I had to cancel my hotel room!!!

"It won't take 5 yrs to get to a bowl this time"....quote by Paul Rhoads

"Stop being cheap and buy football tickets"...quoting cybob

**MontyBurns** · 08-29-2009, 09:30 AM

We would have scored a ton of points in the 2000-2005 years, considering WBB is probably one of their top 3 sports:

Year FB MBB WBB

2000 Bowl NCAA NCAA

2001 Bowl ---- NCAA

2002 Bowl NIT -----

2003 ---- NIT NIT

2004 Bowl NCAA NCAA

2005 Bowl ---- NIT

(Postseason appearances in these 6 years: 5 bowls, 2 NCAA's, 2 NIT's, 3 women's NCAA's and a WNIT. Looking at all 3 sports combined over that period, we had more postseason appearances than anyone else in the Big XII. Then we hired you-know-who.)

2006 ---- ---- NCAA

2007 ---- ---- NCAA

2008 ---- ---- NCAA

**jsmith86** · 08-29-2009, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by jaretac

This was forwarded to me and I think it is interesting. Points were given to each Big 12 school (for the 3 most popular NCAA sports) based on bowls and tournament appearances, and conference and national titles since the founding of the Big 12. Here are the results (larger the number the better the school):

School........FB...MBB...WBB...Total
Baylor........0....5.....42....47
Missouri......13...25....13....51
Texas A&M.....20...13....20....53
Colorado......26...10....20....56
Oklahoma St...7....41....9.....57
Nebraska......44...10....16....70
Texas Tech....14...13....43....70
Kansas St.....26...16....32....74
Iowa St.......8....28....42....78
Kansas........9....101...19....129
Texas.........51...51....41....143
Oklahoma......74...53....63....190

You should throw in wrestling and see how we look after that.

**superfan** · 08-29-2009, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by jsmith86

You should throw in wrestling and see how we look after that.

That's not a fair measure since only 5 schools have that sport. You'd have to throw in baseball to counter the bias.

**Bubbahotep** · 08-29-2009, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by MontyBurns

We would have scored a ton of points in the 2000-2005 years, considering WBB is probably one of their top 3 sports:

Year FB MBB WBB

2000 Bowl NCAA NCAA

2001 Bowl ---- NCAA

2002 Bowl NIT -----

2003 ---- NIT NIT

2004 Bowl NCAA NCAA

2005 Bowl ---- NIT

(Postseason appearances in these 6 years: 5 bowls, 2 NCAA's, 2 NIT's, 3 women's NCAA's and a WNIT. Looking at all 3 sports combined over that period, we had more postseason appearances than anyone else in the Big XII. Then we hired you-know-who.)

2006 ---- ---- NCAA

2007 ---- ---- NCAA

2008 ---- ---- NCAA

Monty, I'm guessing you are divorced, or your wife is deaf. I'll bet she gets annoyed hearing every day how she didn't fold your clothes right.

**CycoCyclone** · 08-29-2009, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by MontyBurns

We would have scored a ton of points in the 2000-2005 years, considering WBB is probably one of their top 3 sports:

Year FB MBB WBB

2000 Bowl NCAA NCAA

2001 Bowl ---- NCAA

2002 Bowl NIT -----

2003 ---- NIT NIT

2004 Bowl NCAA NCAA

2005 Bowl ---- NIT

(Postseason appearances in these 6 years: 5 bowls, 2 NCAA's, 2 NIT's, 3 women's NCAA's and a WNIT. Looking at all 3 sports combined over that period, we had more postseason appearances than anyone else in the Big XII. Then we hired you-know-who.)

2006 ---- ---- NCAA

2007 ---- ---- NCAA

2008 ---- ---- NCAA

Your only serious flaw is an undeserved hatred of JP. And this thread isn't about him.

**superdorf** · 08-29-2009, 10:10 AM

Monty. How can you blame 2006 on JP? Since you ignore me I will wait for someone else to answer.
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**everyyard** · 08-29-2009, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by MontyBurns

We would have scored a ton of points in the 2000-2005 years, considering WBB is probably one of their top 3 sports:

Year FB MBB WBB

2000 Bowl NCAA NCAA

2001 Bowl ---- NCAA

2002 Bowl NIT -----

2003 ---- NIT NIT

2004 Bowl NCAA NCAA

2005 Bowl ---- NIT

(Postseason appearances in these 6 years: 5 bowls, 2 NCAA's, 2 NIT's, 3 women's NCAA's and a WNIT. Looking at all 3 sports combined over that period, we had more postseason appearances than anyone else in the Big XII. Then we hired you-know-who.)

2006 ---- ---- NCAA

2007 ---- ---- NCAA

2008 ---- ---- NCAA

you should drop your lame schtick and support the teams we have not the teams you seem to have an overly nostalgic view of. you're gonna have a lot of crow to eat if JP's programs ever turn the corner and exceed what you are romanticizing as the greatest period in Iowa State history. there is truly nothing like a fan who seems to be hoping his school's programs fail just to prove a point...and this is what you appear to be by the incessantly repetitive theme of your by now VERY predictable posts. Maybe you could spare us all having to read if you came up with something new and just put an "*" in which would mean your opinion and disdain for all things changed by Jamie Pollard remains the same.

**agcy68** · 08-29-2009, 10:12 AM

What was the point assignment for each accomplishment?

**superfan** · 08-29-2009, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by superdorf

Monty. How can you blame 2006 on JP? Since you ignore me I will wait for someone else to answer.
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This is a good question.

**Tornado man** · 08-29-2009, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by jaretac

This was forwarded to me and I think it is interesting. Points were given to each Big 12 school (for the 3 most popular NCAA sports) based on bowls and tournament appearances, and conference and national titles since the founding of the Big 12. Here are the results (larger the number the better the school):

School........FB...MBB...WBB...Total
Baylor........0....5.....42....47
Missouri......13...25....13....51
Texas A&M.....20...13....20....53
Colorado......26...10....20....56
Oklahoma St...7....41....9.....57
Nebraska......44...10....16....70
Texas Tech....14...13....43....70
Kansas St.....26...16....32....74
Iowa St.......8....28....42....78
Kansas........9....101...19....129
Texas.........51...51....41....143
Oklahoma......74...53....63....190

Was WBB added by the orginator just to make us look better?
It's out of place on a table such as this, as it pales in importance to the other two and is a big money loser for all schools.

**Aclone** · 08-29-2009, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by Tornado man

Was WBB added by the orginator just to make us look better?
It's out of place on a table such as this, as it pales in importance to the other two and is a big money loser for all schools.

Actually, I'm sure that WB was added to make Baylor look better...but if you picked a "third" sport, it would have to be WBB.

The truth about Baylor is that the final spot in the conference came down to former SWC schools Houston, Rice and SMU, along with the Bears. The Ponies had done themselves a big nasty with the NCAA, and UT and A&M didn't want a Big XII school with a hometown recruiting base in Houston. So Baylor was elected.