I could be wrong but I believe Long was never the full OC at Oklahoma. They had 2 guys. Long was the passing coordinator and another coach was the rushing coordinator. I think the other coach was Kevin Wilson. Could be wrong on the name. I'm not sure who was in charge of the play calling.
Said it last week, but I'll say it again. We weren't good enough for Gill to interview here, but KU was good enough? Gill didn't want to coach here because he didn't want to have to coach against his alma mater. Now he'll be coaching against them every year anyway.
I hope we drill his teams every freaking year.
I'm not a fan of Gill because of this. Some say he wasn't looking after the Auburn debacle but would he have turn down interviews for the Mizzou, or Colorado jobs if they opened up? I think he turned down ISU because he didn't want to be here which is his choice but when he said he didn't want the ISU job because he didn't want to coach against his Alma Mater and then turn around and take the KU job it devalues what ever else comes out of his mouth.
Originally Posted by everyyard
he would have turned KU down last year too if it had opened. he thought he was hot **** and only looking at annual top 25 programs. this year he cashed what remained of his dirty lottery ticket on whomever he could find to redeem it. no biggie. he may be great, he may be awful, but he isn't the sexy hire he would have been last season. He certainly isn't Mangino so I'd have to say they traded down, which initially looks good for us.
KU just got rid of an AP Coach of the Year in Mangino. Most any hire will seem like a let down.
Turner Gill -- 20-30 Career Coaching Record. Chuck Long 9-27 Career Coaching Record. Big names. Bad coaches. KU -- good luck with that.
Yeah, the coordinators they hired have had some success in the past. Enough to get them HC jobs (which they failed at). However, past success does not mean that they will automatically succeed at KU. The OU offense and overall talent was much better when Chuck Long was there than it will be at KU next year.
You have to take the situation into account to accurately judge how well they will do.
Gill did a great job building the Buffalo program. Is that what KU needs the most though? I think they need a guy who is best at maintaining a program and taking it to the next level. Gill has not done that at all yet. I think an Xs and Os guy would have been best for KU, but they went with the personality guy. We will see how that works out for them.
By the way, Gills efforts in building up Buffalo were some of the main reasons a lot of people wanted him at ISU. I think a lot of KU fans are upset because they wanted a proven big conference HC that could take them to the next level and not a program builder. (I guess they think they have a well established program.)
The big red flag in Gill's background is that he had to leave Nebraska because they didn't see enough potential in his abilities to name him a coordinator. The same staff that passed him over at the time (Solich) believed that Barney Cotton was the best choice to lead the offense.
I would have been really worried about Gill because of his staff. But it looks like he is only taking one from Buffalo and just kept Beaty off of Mangino's staff (I think the brightest star on Mangino's staff). So far he's making some good decisions. That's a good start.
This thread is full of bad information. Gill was the only assistant that Bill Callahan retained at Nebraska. Gill resigned after one year under Callahan to pursue a head coaching job. He did not find one and took a job with the Green Bay Packers in the player development area for a year. He then went to Buffalo as head coach.
My youngest brother attended NU with Gill and has remained friends with him to this day. He tells me that Turner is not an ego driven guy. Much like Paul Rhoads, he is a what you see is what you get type of person. Gill felt after interviewing at Auburn that it was a total joke; that he was only interviewed because of his color. After that, he did not want to interview at ISU or any place else. Please try to find a link where Gill has stated that he did not want to coach against Nebraska.
That said, I have no idea if Gill will succeed at Kansas or not. Historically, KU has not been a football school. Paying Mangino's $3M settlement has to put them behind the 8 ball financially. Realistically, Gill will need at least three years to prove anything. Like most head coaches, his assistants will make or break him. The only thing we know for sure about Gill as a coach is that he is a good recruiter and quarterback coach. Both Tommie Frazier and Eric Crouch have nothing but good things to say about him. KU has lost the skilled position players that has made their offense so dangerous the last three years. There is no way that this year's recruiting class can be stellar with the very late start. In short, time will tell!
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