Saving the Big 12

[CarolinaCy]

Good point. The best we could hope for in that situation (no BYU/Utah) would be to form a new conference with:

K-state
Okie St
Baylor
TT
KU
ISU
TCU
Houston
Boise State
Colorado State
SMU
UNLV

other possibilities would be Air Force, Nevada, Fresno State, New Mexico, etc

That actually wouldn't be too bad.. probably could get an AQ out of that.

I don't think this would be a new conference, would still be the Big XII, just with a bunch of new additions, thereby retaining the automatic qualifier.

[azn4cy]

I don't think this would be a new conference, would still be the Big XII, just with a bunch of new additions, thereby retaining the automatic qualifier.

Fair enough. missed the logic leap there. I think I'd be ok with that. Football wise that conference looks decent.. bball wise... ugh.

[Clonehomer]

I heard Dan Beebe interviewed last night. Some highlights (which include reading between the lines of what he stated):

• Big 12 will not be making any moves ahead of conference realignment
• Big 12 has no desire to expand beyond 12 teams
• Big 12 Network is not completely out of the question but don't hold your breath
• Big 12 FB championship game will be in Dallas in perpetuity
• The TV contract the Big 12 is good given when it was negotiated

In other words, all is well, nothing to see here.

If this is true, this guy will not hold onto his job much longer. Even the Texas schools have got to be upset about the current television situation. If the Big12 doesn't get something in the works before 2016 then the conference will be all done.

[CarolinaCy]

Good point. The best we could hope for in that situation (no BYU/Utah) would be to form a new conference with:

K-state
Okie St
Baylor
TT
KU
ISU
TCU
Houston
Boise State
Colorado State
SMU
UNLV

other possibilities would be Air Force, Nevada, Fresno State, New Mexico, etc

I haven't heard anything about OU leaving the Big XII, if they stayed that would still be a pretty decent lineup.

[Stewo]

ISU needs to start it's own conference. I'd call it the "Way, Totally Awesome Conference 12".

[azn4cy]

I haven't heard anything about OU leaving the Big XII, if they stayed that would still be a pretty decent lineup.

Where does UT go in all this? SEC?

[Al_4_State]

Where does UT go in all this? SEC?

NWIH. Texas is academically arrogant as well, and the SEC is a joke in that regard. If Texas leaves it's for the Pac-10.

[azn4cy]

NWIH. Texas is academically arrogant as well, and the SEC is a joke in that regard. If Texas leaves it's for the Pac-10.

That seems like a leap location wise... What happened to Texas to the Big 10 rumors?

[MoreCowbell]

ISU needs to start it's own conference. I'd call it the "Way, Totally Awesome Conference 12".

I move we amend the name to Way, Totally Awesome, Kick-*** Conference 12.

The Kick-*** lets them know we mean biznezz.

[acgclone]

Where does UT go in all this? SEC?

UT and A&M are joined at the hip, and I can't imagine OU not going with them.

I think if they leave, they will join with the Pac 10 or possibly the SEC.

I really think the most likely scenario is Mizzou and possibly Colorado to leave (mizzou to b10, CU to P-10) and the rest of the conference stays + 2-4 teams.

If we could get some sort of Pac 10/B 12 network as the article talks about, it would be so good for the conference and ISU.

[Al_4_State]

That seems like a leap location wise... What happened to Texas to the Big 10 rumors?

I think that's been pretty well discounted. The Big 10 doesn't want to add someone too powerful. I guarantee you Gene Smith would be fuming if Texas gets int.

If you think the Pac-10 is a leap geographically, can you imagine a conference that extended from up-state NY to southern Texas?

[weR138]

I don't think this would be a new conference, would still be the Big XII, just with a bunch of new additions, thereby retaining the automatic qualifier.

And really this is all I care about. This and that the conference we're in still has a semblance of the Big 8.

[jdoggivjc]

I don't think this would be a new conference, would still be the Big XII, just with a bunch of new additions, thereby retaining the automatic qualifier.

And really this is all I care about. This and that the conference we're in still has a semblance of the Big 8.

If major realignment occurs, with Mizzou and Nebraska going to the Big 10, Colorado heading to the Pac 10, and OSU sticking with Oklahoma wherever it goes, that is an absolute pipe dream.

If major realignment occurs, the so-called "Big 8" is dead.

[azn4cy]

UT and A&M are joined at the hip, and I can't imagine OU not going with them.

I think if they leave, they will join with the Pac 10 or possibly the SEC.

I really think the most likely scenario is Mizzou and possibly Colorado to leave (mizzou to b10, CU to P-10) and the rest of the conference stays + 2-4 teams.

If we could get some sort of Pac 10/B 12 network as the article talks about, it would be so good for the conference and ISU.

So then here's the issue. If Texas won't go to the SEC for academic reasons, and they are joined at the hip to aTm and OU, then why would the Pac 10 want to add that much power if the Big 10 won't?

I would imagine Oregon and USC would have something to say about that.

[Cyclonestate78]

If we could get some sort of Pac 10/B 12 network as the article talks about, it would be so good for the conference and ISU.

This will never be allowed to happen. Beebe's job is to make sure that the deck is stacked in the favor of the big-time football schools in the Big XII. I guarantee that any decision affecting the Big XII conference by this moron in charge will absolutely not take ISU into consideration.

Beebe is obviously an arrogant SOB. He thinks the Big XII is untouchable and much like the captain of the Titanic will find out the hard way that his perception just isn't reality.