A Must read about "Re-alignment" (Kick us to the Curb)

**IowaCYcler** · 06-01-2010, 01:23 PM

Berry Tramel: Breaking up Big 12 hard, but necessary | NewsOK.com

**weR138** · 06-01-2010, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by CloneInHawkCountry

Berry Tramel: Breaking up Big 12 hard, but necessary | NewsOK.com

ISU will not "absolutely be left behind" because the B12 isn't going anywhere.

**Frak** · 06-01-2010, 01:31 PM

We'll see. I think that guy is going a little overboard. Kinda chicken little-ish.

Yeah, it's all about money...BUT, Texas STILL has the highest athletic department budget of any school out there, even with the Big 12's bad TV package. I doubt that they are really looking to change things.

**abcguyks** · 06-01-2010, 01:32 PM

How are OSU, KSU and Colorado rated above ISU? Author's bias showing??

**Farnsworth** · 06-01-2010, 01:33 PM

Great article, but not good for us

**weR138** · 06-01-2010, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by abcguyks

How are OSU, KSU and Colorado rated above ISU? Author's bias showing??

The logic makes sense; OSU and KSU are tied to OU and KU and CU does have some FB tradition. It's all BS though; the B12 isn't breaking up.

**acgclone** · 06-01-2010, 01:36 PM

Why is this "must-read"? It's one OU yahoo's opinion and nothing more. No facts, not even rumors about what is actually going on.

Just the fact that this guy thinks that TTech, Okie State, K-State are on the same level as CU in regards to joining the Pac 10 tells me all I need to know about his research.

**kg-cyclone** · 06-01-2010, 01:39 PM

Relax guys...ISU is going to be in the biggest conference before it is all said and done. With TV coverage on everything West of the Mississippi River.

**brianhos** · 06-01-2010, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by abcguyks

How are OSU, KSU and Colorado rated above ISU? Author's bias showing??

Because they are better in football and basketball than ISU.

**alarson** · 06-01-2010, 01:41 PM

I think someone must have a different definition of 'must-read' than I do.

**weR138** · 06-01-2010, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by brianhos

Because they are better in football and basketball than ISU.

Nope.

**cyfanatic** · 06-01-2010, 01:45 PM

None of us know what is going to happen when all of the realignment stuff plays out. The truth of the matter is that this author is right about one thing...it is every school for themselves! Those of you who think of ISU as a legacy school (original member) and therefore won't be left out are just hoping it plays out that way! Don't you think ISU would immediately accept an offer to join the Big10? But what about our loyalty to the schools we have been united with for so long? If any of the schools in the Big12 get an offer that makes themselves better off...they will take it! Including us...

**weR138** · 06-01-2010, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by cyfanatic

None of us know what is going to happen when all of the realignment stuff plays out. The truth of the matter is that this author is right about one thing...it is every school for themselves! Those of you who think of ISU as a legacy school (original member) and therefore won't be left out are just hoping it plays out that way! Don't you think ISU would immediately accept an offer to join the Big10? But what about our loyalty to the schools we have been united with for so long? If any of the schools in the Big12 get an offer that makes themselves better off...they will take it! Including us...

Yes I do and I hope it happens but that's not what the article is about. The premise of the article is the demise of the B12. It's not going anywhere.

**CloneIce** · 06-01-2010, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by weR138

The logic makes sense; OSU and KSU are tied to OU and KU and CU does have some FB tradition. It's all BS though; the B12 isn't breaking up.

In an academic comparison to ISU, OSU and KSU are glorified junior colleges.

They may be tied to OU and KU, but they are both located in BF nowhere in states that have less population than Iowa and they are significantly worse academically than ISU. Central Kansas and Central Oklahoma make Central Iowa look like a mecca of culture and opportunity in comparison. Sadly it is all about money, but if that came true it would be a disgrace.

**weR138** · 06-01-2010, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by CloneIce

In an academic comparison to ISU, OSU and KSU are glorified junior colleges.

They may be tied to OU and KU, but they are both located in BF nowhere in states that have less population than Iowa and they are significantly worse academically than ISU. Central Kansas and Central Oklahoma make Central Iowa look like a mecca of culture and opportunity in comparison. Sadly it is all about money, but if that came true it would be a disgrace.

I agree 100% with all of this but with regard to this guys article and his perception of B12 athletics I think he's basically correct except where he states that KSU "helps the conference in some ways". I don't think KSU helps the B12 more than ISU but I think they're secure as a member of the B12 because of KU.