Williams Blog: Give the PAC 10 credit

**ChrisMWilliams** · 06-04-2010, 04:12 PM

Just a few thoughts on today's news.

Williams Blog: Give the PAC 10 credit | Cyclone Fanatic

**clonedude** · 06-04-2010, 04:20 PM

Good post Chris.

Yeah... you have to give the Pac 10 credit. They are being proactive in this.

Beebe is about the worst leader I've ever seen. He's the head of one of the best conferences in the country and he's standing by as it gets eaten alive. What a leader.

**Hawk10** · 06-04-2010, 04:23 PM

Pretty accurate take...PAC10 decided to be proactive not reactive...and there are some rumors that the Big 10 is accelerating their timeline now...it's supposedly on the fast track.

**Cyclonestate78** · 06-04-2010, 04:24 PM

Under Beebe's leadership the Big XII is about to see this.....

**clonedude** · 06-04-2010, 04:27 PM

Thanks to the Big 10's greed, college football as we know it will be gone forever. Most likely it will result in ISU going to a lesser conference and Iowa becoming completely irrelevant in the Big 10 amongst the big boys.

**2forISU** · 06-04-2010, 04:32 PM

The new Big 12?

Big 12 (BCS affiliation)
North
Wyoming, BYU, Colorado State, Boise State, Utah, Iowa State

South:
Baylor, TCU, Houston, Kansas, UNLV, Kansas State

You could move both Kansas teams to the North and move BYU and Utah to the South...?

**acgclone** · 06-04-2010, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by 2forISU

The new Big 12?

Big 12 (BCS affiliation)
North
Wyoming, BYU, Colorado State, Boise State, Utah, Iowa State

South:
Baylor, TCU, Houston, Kansas, UNLV, Kansas State

You could move both Kansas teams to the North and move BYU and Utah to the South...?

I like an East/West thing better. Also I would try to work in some schools like Louisville, Memphis, Cinci, Pitt, etc if they are out in the cold and drop CSU and Wyoming if needed. Air Force would be another option.

**Hawk10** · 06-04-2010, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by clonedude

Thanks to the Big 10's greed, college football as we know it will be gone forever. Most likely it will result in ISU going to a lesser conference and Iowa becoming completely irrelevant in the Big 10 amongst the big boys.

I have a question...how would this make Iowa irrelevant?? We are a top 15 grossing football program and a pretty highly grossing department...and on the field we can more than hold our own...we already own the state in recruiting so...It's ignorant comments like these that annoy me.

**alaskaguy** · 06-04-2010, 04:41 PM

If anyone becomes irrelevant, its the castoff teams from the Big 12 that aren't invited to either the PAC 10 or the Big Ten. How much respect do the teams from the Mountain West currently receive, even those teams that are the best in the MWC? That is the future we may face.

**Mclone** · 06-04-2010, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by 2forISU

The new Big 12?

Big 12 (BCS affiliation)
North
Wyoming, BYU, Colorado State, Boise State, Utah, Iowa State

South:
Baylor, TCU, Houston, Kansas, UNLV, Kansas State

You could move both Kansas teams to the North and move BYU and Utah to the South...?

I like the thought. Drop Baylor and instead look at the Big East Football schools with Missouri and Nebraska staying. Geographically speaking, it might be apealing to Oklahoma and OSU to stay. Would make for some nice basketball schools.

**ty4cy90** · 06-04-2010, 04:44 PM

My question is this...What does the PAC-10 have that the Big 12 doesn't? Revenue sharing? More money? A single school that doesn't control the conference?

**2forISU** · 06-04-2010, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by Hawk10

I have a question...how would this make Iowa irrelevant?? We are a top 15 grossing football program and a pretty highly grossing department...and on the field we can more than hold our own...we already own the state in recruiting so...It's ignorant comments like these that annoy me.

Iowa could hold their own in football and wrestling, but they would be bottom of the big 10 for everything else.
Whatever conf. picks up Texas will become the elite conf. It will be interesting in the next couple weeks.

**alarson** · 06-04-2010, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by Hawk10

It's ignorant comments like these that annoy me.

must not read your own posts.

**Cyclonestate78** · 06-04-2010, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Hawk10

I have a question...how would this make Iowa irrelevant?? We are a top 15 grossing football program and a pretty highly grossing department...and on the field we can more than hold our own...we already own the state in recruiting so...It's ignorant comments like these that annoy me.

Iowa better hope that the Big 10 invites some lessor teams or it will be doomsday for the hawks.

**Hawk10** · 06-04-2010, 04:47 PM

It's certainly alarming...I came off in another thread the wrong way...

But I want this to be taken with the best possible respect...Would ISU possibly be more successful in a MAC or even MWC? The attendance and facility's would be among the best in that league...and you would probably be able to contend for a title...Money wise it would probably be about a 10 million dollar hit...but maybe with more success on the field and court the donors would start to open up those pocketbooks? I don't know...regardless it doesn't look good for ISU.