Big Ten moving up timeline?

[swarthmoreCY]

he WAS absolutley SCUM

I would say more, but it would not be very diplomatic.
There have been too many like him in the state over the years.

[joefrog]

With all due respect, you are not paying attention to how he gutted ISU in the late '80's and early 90's in hopes of INTENTIONALLY elevating Iowa to a higher status to ISU. ( IMO- he wanted to eliminate all programs at ISU that duplicate what was offered at Iowa)

His vision was for ISU to become to Iowa what UNO is to UNL. He hired a president to do it as well (Eaton).

Too lazy to research tonight but google Neal Harl and WOI and that will be a good start.

Somebody else may be willing to share (Tornado or JHB)

IMO- his giving WOI away is criminal and he WAS absolutley SCUM

This right here. Pomerantz was the worst sort of Hawkeye and Iowan. Instead of making U of I better, he tried to destroy ISU. **** that *****.

[Oldgoat]

First time I've ever seen Marvin Pomerantz referred to as scum.

Maybe so, but when I was in college, I remember ISU students wearing "Marvin is a Pig" t-shirts. He always had it in for Iowa State.

[SCNCY]

Who is Marvin Pomerantz? Also, what happened in the 80's and 90's in regard to ISU?

[Illiniclone]

If academics mean something, then maybe they should replace Iowa with ISU.

Also why is Missouri being considered if athletics are so important?

[CloneLawman]

First time I've ever seen Marvin Pomerantz referred to as scum.

Not surprising, coming from a Hawk. Actually, scum might be too strong a word,
but in my opinion Pomerantz was no friend of ISU. As a member of the Board of Regents he had a duty to
make ALL of the state schools the best they could be. He didn't appear to view it that way.

[theshadow]

Who is Marvin Pomerantz? Also, what happened in the 80's and 90's in regard to ISU?

He was on the board of regents, and had it out for ISU.

Like was mentioned before, he wanted to eliminate all the duplicate programs, and have a "University of Iowa" system. You would have had UI, UI-Ames, and UI-Cedar Falls. Like the Minnesota, Wisconsin and Nebraska systems.

He also was a driving force behind selling WOI-TV. If you want to boil it down, it was basically because ISU had a TV station and UI didn't. Never mind that WOI wasn't really a profitable entity (there were issues with back taxes, IIRC). It was that ISU simply had the opportunity to have its own programming (academic and athletic) on TV, reaching a significant portion of the state.

It was a happy day among older Cyclone fans when he kicked the bucket.

[swarthmoreCY]

It was a happy day among older Cyclone fans when he kicked the bucket.

Hey now, there were happy young Cyclone fans too!

It is crazy the ill-will ISU has had to face with-in the boarders of Iowa throughout the years.

[cygrads]

He was on the board of regents, and had it out for ISU.

Like was mentioned before, he wanted to eliminate all the duplicate programs, and have a "University of Iowa" system. You would have had UI, UI-Ames, and UI-Cedar Falls. Like the Minnesota, Wisconsin and Nebraska systems.

He also was a driving force behind selling WOI-TV. If you want to boil it down, it was basically because ISU had a TV station and UI didn't. Never mind that WOI wasn't really a profitable entity (there were issues with back taxes, IIRC). It was that ISU simply had the opportunity to have its own programming (academic and athletic) on TV, reaching a significant portion of the state.

It was a happy day among older Cyclone fans when he kicked the bucket.

I agree with everything except the last line - no need to pile on. I think a professor at ISU wrote a book about this but can't remember the name.

[jbhtexas]

I don't want to get this moved to the cave, but do y'all remember what governor gave full blessing to Marvin back in the late '80s / early '90's as Marvin unleashed his wrath on ISU?

[swarthmoreCY]

I don't want to get this moved to the cave, but do y'all remember what governor gave full blessing to Marvin back in the late '80s / early '90's as Marvin unleashed his wrath on ISU?

Polls indicate Iowans are going to give him the chance to finish the job.

[weR138]

I don't want to get this moved to the cave, but do y'all remember what governor gave full blessing to Marvin back in the late '80s / early '90's as Marvin unleashed his wrath on ISU?

Polls indicate Iowans are going to give him the chance to finish the job.

I already mentioned this in another thread. It's gonna happen and we'd better be in a BCS AQ conference when it does...

[swarthmoreCY]

I already mentioned this in another thread. It's gonna happen and we'd better be in a BCS AQ conference when it does...

That may save athletics, but what about ISU as a whole?

[dbqhawk]

First group: Notre Dame, Mizzou and Nebraska

If all three accept,

Second group: Rutgers and ISU

I don't have any inside knowledge, but this seems like a real possibility. I'd give it at least a 10% chance.

My reading is that there is way less than a 10% chance. NO where has I ever read that ISU is even a possibility. Any Big 10 entry has to have the academics(except ND) but how many TV sets are added, IMHO will be the key. ISU does not add many TV sets. IF Nebby and Missou are added, that ends the BIg 12 in its current form.

[jbhtexas]

That may save athletics, but what about ISU as a whole?

The situation back in the late '80s / early '90s was very similar to the one now. The state of Iowa was under a budget crunch, and funding was tight for the universities. Marvelous Marv's solution (with the governor's blessing) was essentially to make Iowa a one-university state.

Like weR138 said, I hope ISU has a BCS conference position locked up before the next governor is sworn in, because (assuming the polls hold) the battle on the academic side is going to be brutal enough. ISU doesn't need to be fighting wars on two fronts...