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    Re: ESPN: Colorado to Pac 10

    Quote Originally Posted by 4429 mcc View Post
    Denver is the # 16 market...its not about sports


    HAS IT EVER BEEN!!!!

    Everything that has happened has been about TV revenue. You have to love how "non-profit" organizations operate in ways to increase their revenues. I really hope that the non-profit status is reviewed by the federal government.

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    Re: ESPN: Colorado to Pac 10

    Quote Originally Posted by MNCyGuy View Post
    Yea, but you're not adding the Denver Broncos, so is anyone there going to give a ****?
    Advertisers dont give a **** about that, the PAC-16 has XX,000,000 number of potiential viewers.

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    Re: ESPN: Colorado to Pac 10

    Quote Originally Posted by Al_4_State View Post
    Not necessarily. They wanted out anyhow.
    I agree. CU leaving has been possible for a while so it's not really shocking.

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    Re: ESPN: Colorado to Pac 10

    Quote Originally Posted by MNCyGuy View Post
    Ok, if all six were going, don't you think they'd wait and break it as a mass announcement? Especially CU whose probably dependent on getting a Big XII buyout waived?
    Source: Pac-10 Conference poised to invite 6 Big 12 Conference teams - ESPN

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    Re: ESPN: Colorado to Pac 10

    Quote Originally Posted by 4429 mcc View Post
    Advertisers dont give a **** about that, the PAC-16 has XX,000,000 number of potiential viewers.
    Advertisers absolutely do give a crap about the ratings of the show theyre advertising in. The reason it may not matter is if they create their own network after the big 10 model and make the majority of the money off of cable subscribers.

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    Re: ESPN: Colorado to Pac 10

    Quote Originally Posted by MNCyGuy View Post
    I wish we could just fire him and have the presidents appoint someone like JP as emergency-acting-commissioner.
    His first act with emergency powers will be to put up a billboard saying "This is Big 12 Country!" in all current Big 12 states.

    The campaign starts now. November 6, 2012.

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    Re: ESPN: Colorado to Pac 10

    Quote Originally Posted by pyrocyz View Post
    HAS IT EVER BEEN!!!!

    Everything that has happened has been about TV revenue. You have to love how "non-profit" organizations operate in ways to increase their revenues. I really hope that the non-profit status is reviewed by the federal government.
    I would love to see this happen. Running an organization based on how much money can be made doesn't sound like non-profit to me.

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    Re: ESPN: Colorado to Pac 10

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    Why does the Big 10 want to add Rutgers? It's not like they're adding the New York Giants, and NYC certainly is less of a college town than Denver is...
    Exactly why I think the rumors about the Big Ten annexing half the Big East have cooled. Apparently the Pac-10's consultants didn't come to the same conclusion.

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    Re: ESPN: Colorado to Pac 10

    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    Advertisers absolutely do give a crap about the ratings of the show theyre advertising in. The reason it may not matter is if they create their own network after the big 10 model and make the majority of the money off of cable subscribers.
    Ratings are pretty constant when it comes to NCAA football...how many tv sets does your network reach is now the million dollar question.

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    Re: ESPN: Colorado to Pac 10

    Quote Originally Posted by MNCyGuy View Post
    Exactly why I think the rumors about the Big Ten annexing half the Big East have cooled. Apparently the Pac-10's consultants didn't come to the same conclusion.

    Mike Landry was on the radio last night, and said the Big Ten is not interested in Rutgers.

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    Re: ESPN: Colorado to Pac 10

    Here's the question: If Pac-10 goes to 16, does that force the Big Ten to 16 (assuming that wasn't the plan already)?

    There's a slim chance that would put ISU in the Big Ten mix — but Missouri would be in, too ... ND, Pitt, Syracuse, Rutgers; Louisville, Cincinnati.

    I guess the bad thing is, mapping ISU's strategy seems to swing wildly with each move.

    Bond w/ remaining Big 12 members and try to pluck MWC & C-USA teams for a new Big 12? Hope B-10 somehow considers ISU? Rip off the Band-Aid and hope MWC wants us?

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    Re: ESPN: Colorado to Pac 10

    Quote Originally Posted by MNCyGuy View Post
    Crazy-pulled-out-of-my-***-scenario #57207:

    Big XII is ceding CU to the Pac-10 to allow them to expand to 12 with Utah. We look east to pick up two new schools in new markets. Pac-10 and Big XII sign even better tv agreement with Fox than the one that was contingent on Nebraska staying.
    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    Thatd be the best possible scenario.

    Its been talked about before that the Pac 10 may either go CU\UT, or that 6 may come over... CU may be jumping because they want to head west either way, and head off the chance of baylor making political progress..
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    It says no Tech and Baylor now.
    Before I start, let me clarify that this is an absolute pipe dream, and I give it "Hail Mary" status.

    But as has been mentioned, Texas "wants" to hold this conference together, and was the reason why they were pressuring Nebraska to stay in. If Texas was willing to snub a Pac 10 invite and all the $$$ that came with it if Nebraska was willing to stay with the conference, then that Fox Sports deal had to be extremely lucrative. The question has been raised what possible school could replace Nebraska, their 80,000 seat stadium, the $75 million in revenues generated, and its extremely large fan base (despite its small state size).

    If the Fox Sports deal were so lucrative that Texas was willing to keep the conference together if Nebraska were to stay, would it possibly be lucrative enough to spring LSU and Arkansas from the SEC?

    Like I said, this is an extreme pipe dream, and I get that. But while the Texas and Oklahoma schools make sense in a football TV revenue sense, it makes absolutely no sense if the Texas women's swimming team has to travel to Pullman, WA in the dead of winter. That kind of traveling is eventually going to eat into the take that would be the gigantic TV revenue that they would see.
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    Re: ESPN: Colorado to Pac 10

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclones500 View Post
    Here's the question: If Pac-10 goes to 16, does that force the Big Ten to 16 (assuming that wasn't the plan already)?

    There's a slim chance that would put ISU in the Big Ten mix — but Missouri would be in, too ... ND, Pitt, Syracuse, Rutgers; Louisville, Cincinnati.

    I guess the bad thing is, mapping ISU's strategy seems to swing wildly with each move.

    Bond w/ remaining Big 12 members and try to pluck MWC & C-USA teams for a new Big 12? Hope B-10 somehow considers ISU? Rip off the Band-Aid and hope MWC wants us?
    Our fate likely depends on whether Texas is serious about keeping the Big 12 alive in some form, or if they are just putting on a show while they pee in our cereal and sneak out the back door.

    The fact that UT and A&M--and no one else--are having a meeting about "saving the Big 12" should tell us what we need to know.

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    Re: ESPN: Colorado to Pac 10

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclones500 View Post
    Here's the question: If Pac-10 goes to 16, does that force the Big Ten to 16 (assuming that wasn't the plan already)?

    There's a slim chance that would put ISU in the Big Ten mix — but Missouri would be in, too ... ND, Pitt, Syracuse, Rutgers; Louisville, Cincinnati.

    I guess the bad thing is, mapping ISU's strategy seems to swing wildly with each move.

    Bond w/ remaining Big 12 members and try to pluck MWC & C-USA teams for a new Big 12? Hope B-10 somehow considers ISU? Rip off the Band-Aid and hope MWC wants us?
    Louisville and Cincinnati are not in the mix as neither are AAU schools (the Big 10 is holding fast to that to give the appearance of giving a damn about academics).

    However, Maryland is being mentioned, and I can't believe Virginia isn't being mentioned as a package deal with them.
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    Re: ESPN: Colorado to Pac 10

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    However, Maryland is being mentioned, and I can't believe Virginia isn't being mentioned as a package deal with them.
    After everything Virginia did to get V-Tech into the ACC at the expense of Syracuse, i'd be shocked if Virginia goes anywhere w/o Tech.
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