Do you think the same could be said in Iowa?

[Wesley]

Other than football and wrastlin . . ISU owns the Hawks but still gets very little respect. Conference strength is also an issue.

Our mission has been assigned, Sir.
We expect to begin our major operation soon.

[iccyfan]

There is a segment of the Iowa fan base that would be happy if ISU had dropped out of a BCS conference, no doubt. But it's the minority.

I used to think that was the case, but this "Cuban Missile Crisis" brought true feelings out into the open. I've lived in Iowa City for twelve years and I get my AM coffee at the same shop a number of "plugged in" Hawk boosters frequent. These guys are smart alum, including a retired bank president, construction company owner, well-known attorney, etc. In the past, they've always purported to support ISU when they weren't playing Iowa. When it looked like ISU was destined for Conference USA or possibly worse, their story entirely changed and "that was where we've belonged for years". Don't be blinded by your personal feelings - the MAJORITY of hawk fans were eager for ISU to be down-graded....

[Wesley]

What nobody ever chooses to consider is that if Mason and Iowa begin doing what everyone on this site suggests and becomes a nuisance in this process (i.e., making verbal threats to "withdraw" or hold up proceedings and or vocally voting against adding Nebraska as a "unity" vote for ISU), they HURT any chance ISU may ever have of getting into the Big 10 because regardless of how anybody really feels about the rivalry, the Big 10 knows Iowa and ISU are allies in this. If Iowa were to become a pest about this, especially when they have no leverage, the rest of the Big 10 presidents could vote to keep ISU out just as a means of ******* Iowa off.

You know, I am not sure the Big ten will get bigger. I am not convinced ND, Rutgers, Syracuse, or Maryland will be moving soon. We may float to the top if those schools stand pat.

[Redhawk]

I was thinking more along the lines of the administrative levels than the fan bases. I realize that the schools are in difference conferences and that there is little Iowa could have done in this case. I was just wondering what the perception was regarding the way the schools work together within the state.

As an ISU fan and alum (and a fan of Iowa and OU, to a lesser extent), I hope that the relationship is a healthy one.

[weR138]

[QUOTE=DodgerHawki;1774208]In all of this, I'm unsure what Iowa officials (specifically Barta and Mason) were supposed to do to get Iowa State into the Big 10. QUOTE]

I'm not sure why hawk fans keep suggesting ISU fans were suggesting this. Mason and Barta have only Uof I's interests in mind and there is nothing wrong wth that. The BOR is another story. It's perfectly reasonable to assume that entre into the CIC for UNL and Mizz would hurt ISU academically. Did the BOR ever address this?

FWIW an ISU professor suggested to me that the BOR make Mason vote no to UNL.

[tm3308]

This is why the Board of Regents (her boss/who she reports to) needs to step in and give her direction (orders).

What's she going to do? Iowa doesn't carry enough weight to leverage ISU into the conference, ESPECIALLY when ISU doesn't offer any new revenue. The Big 10 was never going to take ISU, for that reason. There was nothing Iowa could do, I don't know why some of you continue to insist that there was.

[AlumfromAmes]

In case you haven't been paying attention for the last 6 months, Mason and Iowa were and are in no position to leverage ISU into the Big 10. Not only that, but it's not even her job to do what's best for Iowa State. But I'm sure I'm just wasting my time typing this because nothing's ever going to convince you that Mason was obligated to do what WASN'T in the best interest for the University of Iowa, you know - the one that IS her university - and vote against accepting Nebraska into the Big 10 because that's in the best interest for Iowa State, you know - the one that's NOT her university...

Classic cop-out. "I don't have any inflence... Why should I try?"

I'm glad our soldiers in all the wars and conflicts never had this attitude. I hope I don't see this attitude from our athletes.

[weR138]

[QUOTE=DodgerHawki;1774208]
There is a segment of the Iowa fan base that would be happy if ISU had dropped out of a BCS conference, no doubt. But it's the minority. QUOTE]

If by minority you mean every Iowa fan in Sioux City and every hawk fan I've ever met then yes, you're correct.

[jdoggivjc]

Classic cop-out. "I don't have any inflence... Why should I try?"

I'm glad our soldiers in all the wars and conflicts never had this attitude. I hope I don't see this attitude from our athletes.

I'm not sure which is the bigger cop out - Mason not voting for something that there was no proof that would ultimately hurt ISU (and, if you haven't been paying attention the last several days, ISU is now going to be earning a lot more money in TV contracts with Nebraska no longer around), or ISU fans hinging all of their hopes of the future of ISU athletics on someone who's job description doesn't include looking out for what's in the best interest of ISU and then blaming her because she did her job by looking out for what's in the best interest of Iowa...

[tm3308]

Classic cop-out. "I don't have any inflence... Why should I try?"

I'm glad our soldiers in all the wars and conflicts never had this attitude. I hope I don't see this attitude from our athletes.

What were they gonna do? Seriously. Iowa was never going to be able to get ISU in. Never. They carry no leverage except to say "bring ISU in or we're gone". And if they'd done that, the Big Ten would have simply said "don't let the door hit your a** on the way out". Since we have no leverage, all you're wanting from Iowa is a courtesy lobby. What's the point of that?

[jdoggivjc]

What were they gonna do? Seriously. Iowa was never going to be able to get ISU in. Never. They carry no leverage except to say "bring ISU in or we're gone". And if they'd done that, the Big Ten would have simply said "don't let the door hit your a** on the way out". Since we have no leverage, all you're wanting from Iowa is a courtesy lobby. What's the point of that?

I guess because they're obliged to because of the way Pomerantz sought out to destroy ISU back in the '80s (I do think Pomerantz did try to do that, I roll my eyes that some ISU fans are of the opinion that it obliges Iowa to do everything beyond their power to get ISU into the Big 10 when Iowa doesn't have the power to do so)

[weR138]

I'm not sure which is the bigger cop out - Mason not voting for something that there was no proof that would ultimately hurt ISU (and, if you haven't been paying attention the last several days, ISU is now going to be earning a lot more money in TV contracts with Nebraska no longer around), or ISU fans hinging all of their hopes of the future of ISU athletics on someone who's job description doesn't include looking out for what's in the best interest of ISU and then blaming her because she did her job by looking out for what's in the best interest of Iowa...

Any ISU fan that thinks Sally Mason should vote against UNL of her own accord is wrong. It's really that simple.

[AlumfromAmes]

I see it as an issue of doing what you can for your community/state. When I do something I do it because it's the right thing. Maybe others only do the right thing when they think they can be effective. Again, I hope our athletes always give their finest, even when others don't believe they can win.

I'm also not commenting on the outcome for our conference alignment. Maybe we are now better off. That does not change the fact that our allies in this battle were not from Iowa. That is a disappointment, regardless of the outcome.

[CloneIce]

This whole realignment thing proved how insecure Iowa University and its fans are. The only state where the other major University didn't openly lobby for its "sister school."

[AlumfromAmes]

This whole realignment thing proved how insecure Iowa University and its fans are. The only state where the other major University didn't openly lobby for its "sister school."

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