Kansas State Coach Bill Snyder wants 5 team Divisions, Big12 Title Game

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Originally Posted by Clonehomer

He just wants to schedule four D1AA teams. If the league is small enough that you can play a round robin schedule, why wouldn't you? If just makes sense. I know it's a tougher schedule and that goes against Snyder's personal philosophy, but he just needs to stop thinking out loud. At least he's like 90 years old so he won't be coaching much longer, right?

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I'm surprised that he didn't want to bring in two IAA teams to the Big IIXII north to play in football each year, but keep the payouts to them cheap.

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Originally Posted by Clonehomer

If the league is small enough that you can play a round robin schedule, why wouldn't you?

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Why didnt we schedule 11 conference games and just play ultimate round robin in the 12 team configuration? Couldve still played one nonconference rivalry game even.

The answer is because most have found that having more nonconference teams can be better for the league because it can make sure more teams are in bowls (each conference win creates a conference loss, taking 1 win away from bowl eligibility). More teams in bowls = more money for the shared pot.

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Originally Posted by 3GenClone

I believe it's also the highest rated conference championship game TV-wise

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Ummmmmm ... http://i.ytimg.com/vi/XjnU-jm1Gno/0.jpg

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Originally Posted by alarson

Why didnt we schedule 11 conference games and just play ultimate round robin in the 12 team configuration? Couldve still played one nonconference rivalry game even.

The answer is because most have found that having more nonconference teams can be better for the league because it can make sure more teams are in bowls (each conference win creates a conference loss, taking 1 win away from bowl eligibility). More teams in bowls = more money for the shared pot.

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It sucks that you are so right.

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Originally Posted by MookInLincoln

Ummmmmm ... http://i.ytimg.com/vi/XjnU-jm1Gno/0.jpg

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Last year was probably an exception, but usually the SEC has fewer ratings than the B12 does during championship games. I'm going to try and look this up.

I could see Snyder only wanting to play the 4 other teams in the division so he could schedule 8 cream puffs non-conference.

Big 12
2009: 11.5
SEC
2009: 11.8

I can't find any previous years so far.

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Originally Posted by JUKEBOX

Last year was probably an exception, but SEC has fewer ratings than the B12 did. I'm going to try and look this up.

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I concede. You are correct.

In 2009, the primetime Big 12 Championship game on ABC doubled viewership of the SEC Championship on CBS that afternoon.

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Nevermind, I'm wrong again.

I was comparing ABC and CBS in primetime.

I digress. TV ratings are my krypton.

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Originally Posted by Clonehomer

He just wants to schedule four D1AA teams. If the league is small enough that you can play a round robin schedule, why wouldn't you? If just makes sense. I know it's a tougher schedule and that goes against Snyder's personal philosophy, but he just needs to stop thinking out loud. At least he's like 90 years old so he won't be coaching much longer, right?

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I thought this... but he did come back to coach k-state yet again.:confused:

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Originally Posted by ce1

What? Bill Snyder is still alive?

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Nope. Think....Weekend at Bernie's......


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Originally Posted by JUKEBOX

Big 12
2009: 11.5
SEC
2009: 11.8

I can't find any previous years so far.

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Try the Internet......

Regardless of whether or not the SEC Title game had better ratings, the Big 12 Conference Championship game is a highly watched event. In a league that is supposedly low on the television money totem pole, wouldn't it make sense to keep this game around? I would suspect that after the Red River Rivalry, this is the most watched Big 12 game of the year, and if not, it's probably in the top 5. Seems to me there must be a pretty compelling case against it.

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Originally Posted by Mr Janny

I'd be curious to find out what kind of revenue the Big 12 title game generates on average. It's always a prime time game, with good advertising. I don't know how much it makes, but you'd think that there would be at least some monetary incentive to have one.

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I think it was around 14/15 million last year.

I like Snyders idea..

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Originally Posted by TarHeelHawk

I think it was around 14/15 million last year.

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ok, $14-$15 million. that's a lot of coin. Is there a good reason why the Big 12 is ok with losing this?