Tuberville throws B12 under the bus

[Sloup]

In terms of looking out for member institutions, the Big 12 doesn't seem to have a lot going for it.

I understand the sentiment, but what is the conference supposed to do to look out for member institutions? I could use an example or two.

[CycloneErik]

I understand the sentiment, but what is the conference supposed to do to look out for member institutions? I could use an example or two.

I'm a BIG fan of revenue-sharing. Even if the amount is small, the gesture means something.

Balanced scheduling is a good idea. Playong OU and Texas with a game in between them. Good idea. One at home and one on the road, also a good idea.

There's two....

[uro cy]

The problem is he is right

Texas has sent another conference up to fail

Fixed.

[ISUonthemove]

I'm a Tuberville fan now. He wasn't throwing the Big XII under the bus. He was throwing Texas under the bus.

[twojman]

where'd all this big 12 bashing come from? successful conferences use a communist model to distribute the wealth but since the big 12 doesn't it's dysfunctional? the fact that texas makes a whole $4 million more than us due to the unequal sharing makes the league dysfunctional?

the big 12 competes pretty regularly for national championships in all of the major sports... nebraska left for more money, and colorado left because they just suck in general, but i wouldn't say losing two school makes the conference dysfunctional...

The $4 million to Texas is nothing. Divide that up with the unequal amounts Neb and OU get and give that to Baylor, ISU and KSU. This is something. Facility upgrades can be done/financed with that amount coming in annually. Texas has huge HD boards and had to turn down a $10 Million donation to their football and basketball programs. The money was eventually given to their track teams. This is why that small amount is a big deal.

Share the TV revenue equally. You will still get your own donations, ticket sales and merchandise sales. You still get a ton more money than any school in the conference.

BTW, thanks Tuberville, needed to be said!

[cayin]

Based on a radio interview today, we're beginning to think that Tommy Tuberville has nary a clue he was hired by Texas Tech of the Big 12 and instead thinks he's still coaching in the SEC. Or he's under the impression that the Red Raiders currently reside in his old conference stomping grounds.


How else can you explain the former Auburn and Ole Miss head coach so brazenly throwing his new league under the bus in such a very public manner?


Appearing as a guest on Rivals Radio Tuesday, Tuberville told host Bill King in not so many words that you'd better enjoy the Big 12 while you can because it's not long for the college football world.


"I don't think this conference will last long because there is too much disparity between all the teams," Tuberville said. "In the SEC, for instance, Vanderbilt makes as much money in the television contract as Florida. Everybody is good with it. Everybody is on the same page. Everyone gets the same votes.


"That doesn't happen here in the Big 12. We have some teams that get a little bit more money and have a little it more stroke than some of the other teams. And when that happens, you're gonna have teams looking for better avenues to leave and reasons to leave. We have a 10-team league right now, but I just don't know how long that's gonna last, to be honest with you."


Uhhh, wow?


Listen, every single word uttered uttered by Tuberville drips with a searing, stinging truth, but is it something that a head coach of a Big 12 football program should be saying into a microphone flipped to the "On" position? When a league comes this close to extinction not even a month ago, it would seem likely they would not want one of their coaches to jam his foot so far into his mouth that they'll need a series of intricate winches to do an oral extraction of the offending limb.


My goodness, Coach Tuberville.


Major points for the brutal honesty and speaking the absolute truth -- and you sure have made the upcoming conference media days must-see TV, even more so than it was -- but, dayum man. How the in the name of Steve Spurrier you lug those boulder-sized cojones around on the sidelines for three hours every Saturday in the fall is certainly a feat worthy of a few words of praise.


And a statue or something.

Nope, he said what everyone should have been saying years ago. The Big 12 business model was a disaster in form and function from the beginning. He knows that a school like Vanderbilt will be part of the super 64 or 66 or whatever is left when conference realignment takes it's course. Meanwhile, schools like ISU or even Texas Tech, which are better football schools than Vandy, are in jeopardy of being left behind. That is just wrong, and hats off to Tommy for saying it. The only one's that don't want to hear that kind of talk is Texas. Well, it is time Texas wakes up and smell what they have been shoveling!!!

[Al_4_State]

Call me crazy, but I actually think the Big 12 is set up better, long term than some of the other conferences, BUT, it all depends on one thing: this only stands true if all conference games find a way onto TV.

As long as everyone gets a chance to be on TV week in and week out, everyone can earn their keep, so to speak. You have to think at some point the Communist model, (and honestly what else would you call equal revenue sharing?) is going to fail. Someday, the Ohio States and Floridas of the world will grow tired of floating the Northwesterns and Vanderbilts boats. They're going to wish that they had their own TV network, and they get to bring in all the money they make.

The problem with the Big 12 right now isn't unequal revenue sharing, it's the god awful TV contract.

I'm sure I'm going to draw some heat with this post, but if our new contract gets all Big 12 games on TV, and I think it will, ISU and the rest of the conference will be better off. Remember, there was a time when Communism got really popular, and almost sexy. People were predicting the proletariat would rise up everywhere and the whole world would be under Communist systems. Free market enterprise won out.

[CycloneErik]

Al, I can work with that. Solid concept. If we all get ourselves on TV (as in channels that people are likely to see), then we can get a good thing going that way.

[dosry5]

Al, I can work with that. Solid concept. If we all get ourselves on TV (as in channels that people are likely to see), then we can get a good thing going that way.

Aren't you on a McDonald's commercial?

[CycloneErik]

Aren't you on a McDonald's commercial?

TV for football. Don't let the personal jealousy take us off-topic here.........

Everyone deserves a break today........

[Al_4_State]

Al, I can work with that. Solid concept. If we all get ourselves on TV (as in channels that people are likely to see), then we can get a good thing going that way.

I was convinced as the next guy that College Football Armageddon/Superconferences WERE going to happen. I'm not so sure now. Anyone catch the interview w/Nebraska's Chancellor who said that the presidents of the BCS schools have been voting nearly unanimously against a Playoff system? Makes sense to me. Playoffs are a pain in the *** for fans and players alike, and he said they aren't even sure if more $ will be made. Like it or not, it sounds like the BCS model is going to be here to stay, for a lot of reasons.

I think when it comes down to it, Superconferences are an ESPN invention, and none of the people who are actually in charge of the landscape of college athletics actually want it to happen. If Texas really wanted to leave the Big 12, and be part of a Superconference, they would be. Period. Anyone who thinks that they bought into some baseless, half arsed last ditch attempt to save the conference by the "Forgotten 5" is crazy. Texas did what was best for Texas, and Superconferences ain't what's best for Texas, or likely anyone.

[CycloneErik]

I was convinced as the next guy that College Football Armageddon/Superconferences WERE going to happen. I'm not so sure now. Anyone catch the interview w/Nebraska's Chancellor who said that the presidents of the BCS schools have been voting nearly unanimously against a Playoff system? Makes sense to me. Playoffs are a pain in the *** for fans and players alike, and he said they aren't even sure if more $ will be made. Like it or not, it sounds like the BCS model is going to be here to stay, for a lot of reasons.

I think when it comes down to it, Superconferences are an ESPN invention, and none of the people who are actually in charge of the landscape of college athletics actually want it to happen. If Texas really wanted to leave the Big 12, and be part of a Superconference, they would be. Period. Anyone who thinks that they bought into some baseless, half arsed last ditch attempt to save the conference by the "Forgotten 5" is crazy. Texas did what was best for Texas, and Superconferences ain't what's best for Texas, or likely anyone.

I think Superconferences are a disaster waiting to happen. I'm not as confident that the Big 12 makes it, but not necessarily the complete meltdown that people were previously talking about.

Not sure how it all plays out eventually, so my idea is vague. I think that the Big 12 will really have to have a culture change to survive as it is (or even to add 2 teams). I'm not convinced yet that it's on the way, but like the earthly government as opposed to the insect overlords, it's the best we've got, for now.

[CyCrazy]

I was convinced as the next guy that College Football Armageddon/Superconferences WERE going to happen. I'm not so sure now. Anyone catch the interview w/Nebraska's Chancellor who said that the presidents of the BCS schools have been voting nearly unanimously against a Playoff system? Makes sense to me. Playoffs are a pain in the *** for fans and players alike, and he said they aren't even sure if more $ will be made. Like it or not, it sounds like the BCS model is going to be here to stay, for a lot of reasons.

I think when it comes down to it, Superconferences are an ESPN invention, and none of the people who are actually in charge of the landscape of college athletics actually want it to happen. If Texas really wanted to leave the Big 12, and be part of a Superconference, they would be. Period. Anyone who thinks that they bought into some baseless, half arsed last ditch attempt to save the conference by the "Forgotten 5" is crazy. Texas did what was best for Texas, and Superconferences ain't what's best for Texas, or likely anyone.

Espn is not the for most outlet for sports news??? Funny. I agree if UT wanted to leave they would have. But It wouldnt make sense for UT to leave. That have a cash cow now.

[Al_4_State]

I think Superconferences are a disaster waiting to happen. I'm not as confident that the Big 12 makes it, but not necessarily the complete meltdown that people were previously talking about.

Not sure how it all plays out eventually, so my idea is vague. I think that the Big 12 will really have to have a culture change to survive as it is (or even to add 2 teams). I'm not convinced yet that it's on the way, but like the earthly government as opposed to the insect overlords, it's the best we've got, for now.

You're right. They ARE a disaster, and I think the more people step away from the ledge, and actually start thinking, as opposed to just reading what ESPN wants, they start to see that. This goes for ADs and College Presidents nationwide. Superconferences aren't even beneficial for powerhouses, and Texas could see that.

You can bet your coupons that if Texas really believed that Superconferences were something they wanted to be a part of, that the Pac-16 would be a "go".

[CycloneErik]

You're right. They ARE a disaster, and I think the more people step away from the ledge, and actually start thinking, as opposed to just reading what ESPN wants, they start to see that. This goes for ADs and College Presidents nationwide. Superconferences aren't even beneficial for powerhouses, and Texas could see that.

You can bet your coupons that if Texas really believed that Superconferences were something they wanted to be a part of, that the Pac-16 would be a "go".

Agreed. I was surprised to see Texas blink when push came to shove. So now it really comes down to whether Texas is committed to seeing the Big 12 work or just to seeing Texas work.

I just wish I had coupons to bet on anything.