Regents Approve Tuition Increases

**Cyclonestate78** · 03-23-2011, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by tm3308

5% is just for your typical student. I read awhile back in the Daily Iowan that law students could see like a 20% increase, and nursing students could see up to 50%. That is so far beyond ridiculous that it's not even sad anymore.

Yep. The article stated nursing students at the U of I are going to see a 41% increase in their tuition. That is crazy. It is crazy because next year..... yep... the BOR is going to jack their tuition up again. It's like clockwork.

**alarson** · 03-23-2011, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by IcSyU

Instead of getting total pieces of **** when they buy new computers from Dell, get something that works and load it up with RAM so they aren't slower than molasses?

Or maybe just cut back on a lot of those computers to begin with, except for classes where you'd need the high processing power or technical software. Make it clear to new students that laptops will be expected by some of their classes and everyone will get them (and have a laptop rental\checkout program to cover gaps\emergency broken computer issues). Its not like you dont have tons of options for sub-$500 laptops these days that'll do what almost all students need for class.

**RayShimley** · 03-23-2011, 01:02 PM

ISU and the BOR really didn't have a choice here. We have record enrollment numbers and are still looking at back to back 10% across the board state budget cuts.

**IcSyU** · 03-23-2011, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by alarson

Or maybe just cut back on a lot of those computers to begin with, except for classes where you'd need the high processing power or technical software. Make it clear to new students that laptops will be expected by some of their classes and everyone will get them (and have a laptop rental\checkout program to cover gaps\emergency broken computer issues). Its not like you dont have tons of options for sub-$500 laptops these days that'll do what almost all students need for class.

I can count on one hand how many people I know who don't have a laptop or their own desktop.

Iowa State needs to just find a way where I can plug in a networking cable to my laptop and print from my laptop on the lab printer. Have it prompt me to download the drivers quick and voila. Set up half the Gerdin lab with computers and then leave the other half for people to sit down with laptops. Everyone wins.

**iahawkhunter** · 03-23-2011, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by IcSyU

It all still goes back to the Regents IMO. The amount wasted at Iowa State is disgusting, and I'll guarantee Northern Iowa and Iowa are the exact same way. No accountability at any level = recklass spending.

For example, with the College of Business at Iowa State. Screw differential tuition. People want smaller class sizes? Tell them they can go to DMACC and transfer in. I haven't had a 300 level class in my major yet that had more than 60 people in it. Maybe take and don't require all students to purchase 2,000 pages of printing that most won't use? Instead of getting total pieces of **** when they buy new computers from Dell, get something that works and load it up with RAM so they aren't slower than molasses? No student cares if the CPU is built into the monitor when they take 5 minutes to start up. Give me a CPU sitting on the floor and 1 minute of startup time.

You don't purchase 2000 pages of printing. You pay a computer fee, and the only part of that fee that goes towards printing is what you actually use (not to mention that the actual dollar value per page is ridiculously small and almost insignificant in the scheme of the rest of the computer fee). I definitely agree with the other computer points, though. Admins don't need scientific workhorse computers to run their terminal apps.

**IcSyU** · 03-23-2011, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by RayShimley

ISU and the BOR really didn't have a choice here. We have record enrollment numbers and are still looking at back to back 10% across the board state budget cuts.

Eventually someone will figure out that the state would generate more tax revenue if they didn't force the hand of anyone getting an education that needs student loans to get by. State of Iowa is getting older and they aren't helping. Forgive a % of loan debt if students stay in-state for 5 years post grad. Find something to at least give me reason to consider staying in-state vs. Chicago/Minneapolis/Omaha/St. Louis/Kansas City.

**iahawkhunter** · 03-23-2011, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by IcSyU

I can count on one hand how many people I know who don't have a laptop or their own desktop.

Iowa State needs to just find a way where I can plug in a networking cable to my laptop and print from my laptop on the lab printer. Have it prompt me to download the drivers quick and voila. Set up half the Gerdin lab with computers and then leave the other half for people to sit down with laptops. Everyone wins.

Some printers on campus are enabled for web-printing through the PaperCut site (website where you can check your print quota). I've never used it because none of the printers in Howe are accessible like this, but you may find yourself close enough to an enabled-printer to make that work for you. It would be great if all the printers were accessible from a personal computer, though.

**risiusj** · 03-23-2011, 01:14 PM

The federal government is most to blame for high tuition.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIcfMMVcYZg&feature=related]YouTube - How government programs drive up college tuitions[/ame]

**IcSyU** · 03-23-2011, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by iahawkhunter

You don't purchase 2000 pages of printing. You pay a computer fee, and the only part of that fee that goes towards printing is what you actually use (not to mention that the actual dollar value per page is ridiculously small and almost insignificant in the scheme of the rest of the computer fee). I definitely agree with the other computer points, though. Admins don't need scientific workhorse computers to run their terminal apps.

With what I pay in technology fees, Gerdin should have brand-new, state-of-the-art computers every year. Its not even like the computers in the lab are great computers. They're ****** computers that someone bought because they were CPU/monitor integrated and use less space. They cost double and suck just as bad as the old ones. RAM isn't expensive. I can get on Dell's site and get a desktop for $300. Iowa State can buy in bulk and get them cheaper and add RAM to each computer and be WAY ahead of the crap in the labs now.

I actually wouldn't be surprised if Iowa State leases everything, which infuriates me even more that they lease total crap.

**Bobber** · 03-23-2011, 01:23 PM

State schools are still a tremendous value(if you don't think so try a decent private). If you want to really save money go to a Community College for two years and then transfer in(that's what I'd do if we're doing it again).

Nobody likes this, but the fact of the matter is, you're going to cut the quality of oru schools if these things don't happen.

**Cyclonestate78** · 03-23-2011, 01:24 PM

2011
Regents to Increase Tuition at Iowa Public Universities - WHO

2010
Regents approve 6 percent tuition increase; consider refunding $100 surcharge - Iowa State Daily: News

2009
Regents approve $100 tuition surcharge for spring | Eastern Iowa Government

Regents To Look At Tuition Hike - WHO

I could keep going all day long....

**kingcy** · 03-23-2011, 01:30 PM

They have no choice. As long as the overhead is high at the state universities tution is going to keep going up.

DMACC's tuition is more than half of ISU's per credit hour. Plus they have smaller classes. ISU may offer a better education in the requireds, but that is a huge difference in price. The graduate tution at ISU is the same as DMU.

**alkaline33** · 03-23-2011, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by IcSyU

With what I pay in technology fees, Gerdin should have brand-new, state-of-the-art computers every year. Its not even like the computers in the lab are great computers. They're ****** computers that someone bought because they were CPU/monitor integrated and use less space. They cost double and suck just as bad as the old ones. RAM isn't expensive. I can get on Dell's site and get a desktop for $300. Iowa State can buy in bulk and get them cheaper and add RAM to each computer and be WAY ahead of the crap in the labs now.

I actually wouldn't be surprised if Iowa State leases everything, which infuriates me even more that they lease total crap.

Care to go into detail about what exactly you are doing in the Gerdin lab that requires more processing power than the computers in there can handle? Last time I checked, those computers are more than adequate for just about everything (printing, webct, class software, etc).

**IcSyU** · 03-23-2011, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by alkaline33

Care to go into detail about what exactly you are doing in the Gerdin lab that requires more processing power than the computers in there can handle? Last time I checked, those computers are more than adequate for just about everything (printing, webct, class software, etc).

I'm not arguing they aren't, I am saying it is absolutely ridiculous that it takes 4-5 minutes to start up a computer. If you go into the lab early in the morning before all the computers have been turned on or someone shuts it down when they finish, you're looking at 5 minutes MINIMUM for them to fire up. If I get time this afternoon I may just go in there and see what the specs are on those computers with their processors and RAM.

**Cyclone711** · 03-23-2011, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by IcSyU

Iowa residents pay taxes to fund the university. Out of state students don't.

and Iowa State does the exact opposite. Because of the amount of debt I'm going to take out of school, I'm limited in the jobs I can consider because there are better paying jobs elsewhere.

Yes, because high school kids pay upwards of 10,000 dollars a year in taxes that benefit the University.............

Heck, all tax payers in the state don't.