Paddy's and Sips seem to be having problems

**CyArob** · 10-04-2012, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by WhatchaGonnaDo

They're college bars, what the **** do you expect?

For them to clean more than once a month.

**DistrictCyclone** · 10-04-2012, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by Cyclonetrombone

Haven't been back to the area since 2008... Element still where all the creepy old dudes hang out? Outlaws still overrated? The newer location for Es Tas was a good upgrade over the old dump. Makes me sad to hear it is back to its old ways.

Cafe B, WAS and Capones were the good bars in 2008, I never understood the reason why everyone loved Paddy's, Sips and Mickey's... all were below average bars even at that point.

Damn you're making me feel old; none of those were there when I graduated...which wasn't that many years before 2008.

**WhatchaGonnaDo** · 10-04-2012, 08:56 PM

I'm just saying this shouldn't be all that shocking. Obviously having roaches pushes it too far. But about the bathroom and food stuff, you can't have too high of expectations

**CyArob** · 10-04-2012, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by WhatchaGonnaDo

I'm just saying this shouldn't be all that shocking. Obviously having roaches pushes it too far. But about the bathroom and food stuff, you can't have too high of expectations

That's just it, my expectations aren't that high. And they still don't meet them.

**CyCrazy** · 10-04-2012, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by cyclone87

I agree, the city likely knew this was coming eventually. Just makes me wish the whole redevelopment would have proceeded is all I'm saying.

All of campus town needs to be bulldozed and they need to start over.

**IcSyU** · 10-04-2012, 08:58 PM

A restroom in a college town bar should just be tile with a toilet and urinal. Each night just powerwash the damn thing.

**DistrictCyclone** · 10-04-2012, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by IcSyU

I've been in plenty of college bars which were nicer than anything in Campustown. They had character besides just being a ********. Campustown just needs a tornado so it can start over.

Hey, if they can afford to rebuild and have to let someone else have a shot, we still win.

New bars or old bars, they're going to do the minimum required to meet their health and safety inspections. It's simple economics; they'll only do enough to be in compliance with the law and keep people from going somewhere else to drink...which, given that they're located mere blocks from a boatload of thirsty college students who have few alternatives, is next to nothing.

Roaches are one thing, but I'd much prefer a bar with a little grime and "character" to some sterile, generic place with no history. And it's entirely possible to have a sanitary, well-kept bar in an old building; they don't need to tear the whole place down in order to clean it up a little.

**WhatchaGonnaDo** · 10-04-2012, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by DistrictCyclone

New bars or old bars, they're going to do the minimum required to meet their health and safety inspections. It's simple economics; they'll only do enough to be in compliance with the law and keep people from going somewhere else to drink...which, given that they're located mere blocks from a boatload of thirsty college students who have few alternatives, is next to nothing.

Roaches are one thing, but I'd much prefer a bar with a little grime and "character" to some sterile, generic place with no history. And it's entirely possible to have a sanitary, well-kept bar in an old building; they don't need to tear the whole place down in order to clean it up a little.

This, exactly this

**Rabbuk** · 10-04-2012, 09:21 PM

We need more places that play dubstep and have laser lights. signed, No one

**scyclonekid** · 10-04-2012, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by CyCrazy

All of campus town needs to be bulldozed and they need to start over.

Agree 100% Our campus town is a dump.

**scyclonekid** · 10-04-2012, 09:23 PM

It is so weird when you are on our beautiful campus then you cross Lincoln Way into another world.

**scyclonekid** · 10-04-2012, 09:26 PM

You can have an old bar with "clean character."

**ISUAgronomist** · 10-04-2012, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by CyCrazy

All of campus town needs to be bulldozed and they need to start over.

QFT.

**cyclone87** · 10-04-2012, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by DistrictCyclone

New bars or old bars, they're going to do the minimum required to meet their health and safety inspections. It's simple economics; they'll only do enough to be in compliance with the law and keep people from going somewhere else to drink...which, given that they're located mere blocks from a boatload of thirsty college students who have few alternatives, is next to nothing.

Roaches are one thing, but I'd much prefer a bar with a little grime and "character" to some sterile, generic place with no history. And it's entirely possible to have a sanitary, well-kept bar in an old building; they don't need to tear the whole place down in order to clean it up a little.

I completely agree, but most of these campustown bars just have the grime (don't really think you can get away with calling it that) with little to no character, most of them only last for a short time and then are replaced by another dump. In no way are they sanitary or well-kept and some of them have pretty much trashed the building they are in. WAS is the exception here, that place has a bit of grime but also some character.