Veishea Problems? Welch?

**Cyclone62** · 04-19-2009, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by MNCyGuy

Anybody hear about anything happening out by the horse barns/agronomy building around 1:30-2:00? I saw a bunch of flashing lights down that way and looked like they were diverting traffic away when I was walking home. I was tempted to go take a closer look, but common sense prevailed.

It's probably just drunk people. I saw a lot of people getting stopped by cops checking IDs and such around this time when I went to get a late-night funnel cake.

**DJK15** · 04-19-2009, 01:38 PM

“All of the well-meaning people become part of the problem because the troublemakers hide amongst them,” he said. “The troublemakers find safety in numbers and that’s what onlookers are providing.”

"SO WE JUST MACE EVERYBODY!!"

The cops freaking hate VEISHEA, they would absolutely love another full blown riot so they could stick a fork in the tradition all together. I don't see why a couple fights required shutting down Welch. Are they telling us they can't handle a disturbance without shutting down every business on an entire street? If I was the owner of Subway or Jimmy Johns I'd be ******. The cops cost them a LOT of business last night if they forced them to close at 1:30!

**wxman1** · 04-19-2009, 04:29 PM

Anyone have any pics or video of the fights or police action this morning?

**Erik4Cy** · 04-19-2009, 04:38 PM

Iowa State has really turned into a drinking/party school, I love to drink as much as the next guy or gal, but man, just insane the amount of drunken craziness I saw, nothing riot-esque, but still crazy on it's own level. But heck - it's Ames, IA what else is there to do then drink?

I think all in all I heard 50 arrests and 1 reported injury (someone jumped out a 4 story building/legacy towers i think? just wow)

**Bobber** · 04-19-2009, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by Erik4Cy

Iowa State has really turned into a drinking/party school, I love to drink as much as the next guy or gal, but man, just insane the amount of drunken craziness I saw, nothing riot-esque, but still crazy on it's own level. But heck - it's Ames, IA what else is there to do then drink?

I think all in all I heard 50 arrests and 1 reported injury (someone jumped out a 4 story building/legacy towers i think? just wow)

Nothing compared to the 70's and 80's. Back then the Fraternities had huge keg parties.

**IcSyU** · 04-19-2009, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by Erik4Cy

(someone jumped out a 4 story building/legacy towers i think? just wow)

Can you please explain the thought process you go through to make this sound like a good idea?

Name released of man who fell out of Legacy Towers

**CyDude16** · 04-19-2009, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by IcSyU

Can you please explain the thought process you go through to make this sound like a good idea?

Name released of man who fell out of Legacy Towers

You're telling me its not a good idea? Dang, really need to rethink about jumping 9 stories in larch.

**Erik4Cy** · 04-19-2009, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by IcSyU

Can you please explain the thought process you go through to make this sound like a good idea?

Name released of man who fell out of Legacy Towers

OH, If I COULD, I'd be making a lot of money somewhere as a psychologist. I'd love to hear anyone's explanation of how the thought process on that goes? I've been extremely hammered before but never understand when I hear the outrageous stories about people like this. I am assuming he had to be drunk at the time. I'd be surprised if he wasn't. I just never understood how the same alcohol I drink makes others do these things.

**Melvin** · 04-19-2009, 04:49 PM

Did the Cops learn anything from the massive 1988 and 1992 riots. It sounds like the same thing 20 years ago.

The Riots started when the cops busted up (3) Huge parties. There were 1000's of 1/2 drunk college kids looking for something to do.

**Bobber** · 04-19-2009, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Melvin

Did the Cops learn anything from the massive 1988 and 1992 riots. It sounds like the same thing 20 years ago.

The Riots started when the cops busted up (3) Huge parties. There were 1000's of 1/2 drunk college kids looking for something to do.

Sure they did. This didn't turn into a massive riot.

**Me State** · 04-19-2009, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by CyForPresident

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Edit: The cops are gonna pay tomorrow. Lawsuit coming your way Ames police.

Good luck with your lawsuit.

I don't know whats more sad. The fact that you think you have a case or the fact that you don't realize that even if YOU win it will be YOU(the taxpayer) that pays your settlement.

Maybe you should be mad at all the idiots that choose to act like neanderthals when they get a little alcohol in them.

Wake up students. Want to be treated like adults? Start acting like adults.

**Rogue52** · 04-19-2009, 04:58 PM

IMO, what occurred last night was extremely minor and barely newsworthy. Things like this will happen and moving the concerts to Timbuktu isn't making it better.

**gocubs2118** · 04-19-2009, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by Me State

Good luck with your lawsuit.

I don't know whats more sad. The fact that you think you have a case or the fact that you don't realize that even if YOU win it will be YOU(the taxpayer) that pays your settlement.

Maybe you should be mad at all the idiots that choose to act like neanderthals when they get a little alcohol in them.

Wake up students. Want to be treated like adults? Start acting like adults.

Yes dad.

**alarson** · 04-19-2009, 05:10 PM

I was back up in ames for veishea this weekend.. my freshman year was the year of the last riot.

Im not sure the cops did anything to prevent a riot. Quite the opposite, it seemed like they were being openly antagonistic to the crowds, 99.9% of whom were just out to have a good time, and not harm anything or anyone. Now, I'm not one to be dumb and pick a fight with them, even if they were being ridiculous, I know I'm not gonna win that fight, but they definitely were not helping the situation last night. In addition, shutting down welch had to cost some of those food stands (that pull in a ton of business between 1:30 and 3 am) a ton of money. I know i probably wouldve hit up the superdog stand...

I heard of several people being threatened with mace who were not doing anything but following directions. WAS was locked down (nobody in or out) for a time around 1 when there was no violence to be seen anywhere on the streets.

It seemed like they had learned when they completely adjusted their approach for the 2006 veishea, but when I was out last night, the actions of the police reminded me of 04, so i guess theyve forgotten all that.

The thing is, while there are some good sized crowds, its no more than say, the iowa game weekend, and theres never been any problems there (when in all likelihood there should be more fights breaking out with the rivalry). The only difference is that the cops dont show up loaded for a fight on football game weekends. If the cops would just chill out like they normally do every other saturday, veishea would not escalate into a problem.

The ONE good thing the cops did was get cyride to send some more buses over, the crowd that was beginning to build when they cleared welch could easily have turned violent, the buses allowed them a quick way to get home (especially since cyride was ringing busy due to the huge volume of calls that happened when they closed down welch)

**alarson** · 04-19-2009, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Rogue52

IMO, what occurred last night was extremely minor and barely newsworthy. Things like this will happen and moving the concerts to Timbuktu isn't making it better.

No, its not. I thought the reason they moved the concerts from welch to central campus was to keep people occupied there. When concerts are way out there (and dont get me started on the wristband thing), less people will go, and the bar area will be more packed. Veishea 2010 should have the main stage back on central campus.