Veishea Problems? Welch? - Page 4

gocubs2118 · 04-19-2009, 05:13 PM

Is it me or does it seem like we have this thread after every VEISHEA?

CyForPresident · 04-19-2009, 05:14 PM

If you guys saw my SOBER innocent friend last night, you wouldn't think this is immature. Wake up adults, cops are pigs.

Bobber · 04-19-2009, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by gocubs2118

Is it me or does it seem like we have this thread after every VEISHEA?

That's the problem. Not so sure they shouldn't cancel the event.

alarson · 04-19-2009, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by Me State

Good luck with your lawsuit.

I don't know whats more sad. The fact that you think you have a case or the fact that you don't realize that even if YOU win it will be YOU(the taxpayer) that pays your settlement.

Maybe you should be mad at all the idiots that choose to act like neanderthals when they get a little alcohol in them.

Wake up students. Want to be treated like adults? Start acting like adults.

If they can produce evidence that they were maced without due cause, then yes, they would have a case. Mace isnt a toy, its a weapon, and should be treated as such.

And sure, itll cost all taxpayers. But thats not the victim's fault, if they were proven right then it should put more pressure from the taxpayers on the police to get their act together and weed out those cops who enjoy antagonizing students, and those who treat their weapons like theyre toys. You dont just wave around a gun, and neither should you for mace.

Bobber · 04-19-2009, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by alarson83

If they can produce evidence that they were maced without due cause, then yes, they would have a case. Mace isnt a toy, its a weapon, and should be treated as such.

And sure, itll cost all taxpayers. But thats not the victim's fault, if they were proven right then it should put more pressure from the taxpayers on the police to get their act together and weed out those cops who enjoy antagonizing students, and those who treat their weapons like theyre toys. You dont just wave around a gun, and neither should you for mace.

The cops are victims of the mob mentality...

Everybody seems to be "victim" anymore.

cloneaholic · 04-19-2009, 05:28 PM

I assisted with VEISHEA security this weekend (late at night) and I saw up close what was going on. I must say that the behavior of the vast majority of the people there was excellent. But there are a very small minority of people who aren't mature enough to hold their liquor and they have to ruin it for everyone. And I'm pretty confident that many, if not most, of this small group of people aren't ISU students. (Notice that the guy who jumped from the 4th floor balcony was an Iowa Central CC student.)

In my opinion, those of you who badmouth the Ames and ISU police couldn't be more wrong. They want very much for VEISHEA to be successful and they try very hard to let the little stuff go in order to keep things going as smoothly as possible. But when some idiots do things so blatant that they endanger themselves and others, the local police have no choice but to step in.

Instead of *****ing about the police, you should be *****ing about the drunk idiots who are determined to ruin VEISHEA.

wxman1 · 04-19-2009, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by alarson83

No, its not. I thought the reason they moved the concerts from welch to central campus was to keep people occupied there. When concerts are way out there (and dont get me started on the wristband thing), less people will go, and the bar area will be more packed. Veishea 2010 should have the main stage back on central campus.

I highly doubt this will happen. The university has made it very clear that they don't want any large concerts on central campus in case it does rain that would turn the place into a mud pit.

IcSyU · 04-19-2009, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by Bobber

That's the problem. Not so sure they shouldn't cancel the event.

That'd be beyond stupid for the university. Gets people in Ames spending money in places like the Bookstore for no real reason. VEISHEA is paid for through tuition if I'm not mistaken so that's free money for them.

Originally Posted by cloneaholic

Instead of *****ing about the police, you should be *****ing about the drunk idiots who are determined to ruin VEASHEA.

Ding ding ding!!! Winner!

Bobber · 04-19-2009, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by IcSyU

That'd be beyond stupid for the university. Gets people in Ames spending money in places like the Bookstore for no real reason. VEISHEA is paid for through tuition if I'm not mistaken so that's free money for them.

One murder or death that throws the University into a law suit will wipe any "profit" away.

The event was started to promote the University. Stupid things like what happened last night just hurt it instead.

IcSyU · 04-19-2009, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by Bobber

One murder or death that throws the University into a law suit will wipe any "profit" away.

The event was started to promote the University. Stupid things like what happened last night just hurt it instead.

So because of the actions of a couple morons, we have to quit the whole event. Get rid of football games and tailgating, because the same stupid crap goes on.

alarson · 04-19-2009, 05:35 PM

Another interesting thing.. des moines register says 6 arrests on their homepage. 6? 6 arrests is enough reason to close welch down, mace people, split up groups of friends, and end veishea on a low note? Seems like an overuse of force to me. There were TONS of cops in the area, blocking off every street that led to welch. Dont tell me they couldnt have isolated the offenders, and quickly nipped the problem.

And only 6 arrests... that seems like a normal weekend night in any college town.

gocubs2118 · 04-19-2009, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by IcSyU

So because of the actions of a couple morons, we have to quit the whole event. Get rid of football games and tailgating, because the same stupid crap goes on.

Maybe they should just get rid of weekends as well, since that crap can go on then too.