Gen Xer's

pulse · 06-21-2007, 12:26 AM

You need to remember, not everyone grew up or went to college in the Criner/Walden years. Gen X has experienced winless seasons and badly coached football teams that often underachieved and didn't play to win, but rather hopefully not to lose.

Students and recent graduates were born in the 80s. They happily enjoyed 27-9, 23-3, etc and don't know or care about the awful streak. One of my favorite quotes is from the senior Reggie Hayward who was asked a dumb question from an idiot reporter one time said, "I've never lost to Iowa".

Older folks, let go of the baggage. I realize its hard, but think of it this way: If Gene Chizik isn't a big step upward from Dan McCarney, then there would have been no reason to hire him!

ISUclones33 · 06-21-2007, 12:37 AM

yeah, but im not going to hold my breath... any hire can be a flop.. *see criner... I have faith, but were not hawkeye optimistic yet, we arent going to win the national championship this year

9seven · 06-21-2007, 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by ISUclones33

yeah, but im not going to hold my breath... any hire can be a flop.. *see criner... I have faith, but were not hawkeye optimistic yet, we arent going to win the national championship this year

Ahh... Crap, I was already printing Tshirts and Hats!

Flag Guy · 06-21-2007, 05:28 AM

Originally Posted by pulse

You need to remember, not everyone grew up or went to college in the Criner/Walden years. Gen X has experienced winless seasons and badly coached football teams that often underachieved and didn't play to win, but rather hopefully not to lose.

Students and recent graduates were born in the 80s. They happily enjoyed 27-9, 23-3, etc and don't know or care about the awful streak. One of my favorite quotes is from the senior Reggie Hayward who was asked a dumb question from an idiot reporter one time said, "I've never lost to Iowa".

Older folks, let go of the baggage. I realize its hard, but think of it this way: If Gene Chizik isn't a big step upward from Dan McCarney, then there would have been no reason to hire him!

Can anyone say 2-10 their first season as a Cyclone? *raises hand*
Anyone tired of seeing the every offense run the same play against us, because the same play worked for every team? *raises hand*
I liked McCarney as a man, but I´m glad to see new leadership for our team

Wesley · 06-21-2007, 07:19 AM

75% passing completion against us says it all. Time for a new Sherriff.

jdoggivjc · 06-21-2007, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by Flag Guy

Can anyone say 2-10 their first season as a Cyclone? *raises hand*
Anyone tired of seeing the every offense run the same play against us, because the same play worked for every team? *raises hand*
I liked McCarney as a man, but I´m glad to see new leadership for our team

I can do worse...

I got to see 1-10 (in 1997) my first year, with the lone victory being a homecoming win over a Baylor team that was actually worse than we were. That victory also happened to end the nation's longest losing streak.

I liked a lot of the things about the McCarney era. I was sad to see him go. But I'm even more excited to see what the new blood around here is going to do to the program.

SlyCy · 06-21-2007, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by pulse

You need to remember, not everyone grew up or went to college in the Criner/Walden years. Gen X has experienced winless seasons and badly coached football teams that often underachieved and didn't play to win, but rather hopefully not to lose.

Students and recent graduates were born in the 80s. They happily enjoyed 27-9, 23-3, etc and don't know or care about the awful streak. One of my favorite quotes is from the senior Reggie Hayward who was asked a dumb question from an idiot reporter one time said, "I've never lost to Iowa".

Older folks, let go of the baggage. I realize its hard, but think of it this way: If Gene Chizik isn't a big step upward from Dan McCarney, then there would have been no reason to hire him!

You need to take a step back, look at the big picture and then show some respect.

Those Generation Xer's you just lectured, along with older generations, are carrying those "students and recent graduates...that don't know or don't care about the aweful streak" in donations so chill out.

Its possible some day those "students and recent graduates...that don't know or don't care about the aweful streak" might be lectured about the McCarney years...

mramseyISU · 06-21-2007, 09:43 AM

I didn't start following ISU until my first year here, before that I was a Mizzou fan. Generally I tried not to pay attention until Basketball season started.

psycln11 · 06-21-2007, 09:51 AM

We were a combined 14-49-3 in my 6 years (1991-1996).

Compare that with 16-8 in just two years (2000-2001) with 2 bowl appearances.

Don't know what I'm trying to say other than WE SUCKED while I was in school. Campus Bookstore was selling T-shirts with the following saying...

"Ames, A Drinking Town with a Football Problem"

SuperCy · 06-21-2007, 10:23 AM

My senior year was the year we went 0-10-1.
Walden kicked a field goal at the end of the game at OSU instead of going for the touchdown.
When asked about going for the tie instead of the win he stated something to the fact "Sometimes you play not to lose."
What?!?!?!?!? They hadn't won a game and he was playing not to lose???

I was at a few Nebraska games where we didn't get a first down until the
2nd half. When we did get the first down the crowd would cheer like we just scored a touchdown.

I, like many other alum, went through school without ever seeing us beat the Hawks.

I think that some people need a new perspective. You've been spoiled by recent "success." You've had a year or two that didn't turn out the way you wanted it to. Well lahdee frickin' dah. Don't knock those of us that have been through the REALLY bad times.

The Mizzou game and the KU game from a few years ago? That hurt. I'm not going to deny that, but after sitting through debacle after debacle......nothing surprises me anymore.

brianhos · 06-21-2007, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by pulse

Older folks, let go of the baggage. I realize its hard, but think of it this way: If Gene Chizik isn't a big step upward from Dan McCarney, then there would have been no reason to hire him!

Never coached a game and he is better than the previous guy, who took ISU to the only bowls in recent history? I agree, he looks like he could be better, but don't go out an name him the savior of the world before he has proven anything.

brianhos · 06-21-2007, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by jdoggivjc

I can do worse...

I got to see 1-10 (in 1997) my first year, with the lone victory being a homecoming win over a Baylor team that was actually worse than we were. That victory also happened to end the nation's longest losing streak.

Heh, that was the year I graduated, so I got to see the power walden years. Getting beat by 40-50 against every team above a div 1AA was not much fun.

AirWalke · 06-21-2007, 10:36 AM

I suppose I represent the epitome of optimism in the "gen x" category, as my first year here was in 2004. I remember mid-way through the season the week before we'd beaten Nebraska, I figured out how ISU could win the Big 12 north. I showed it to a few of the veteran guys on the floor, and they just laughed, and laughed...

We all know how it ended, but my point is that a newfound surge of appreciation in our football program is actually benefitting ISU, and shouldn't be knocked on for not experiencing the pain and suffering of 0-12 or 1-10 years. It's exactly what's driving NCC memberships up, because those who are graduating left excited about ISU athletics, rather than turning their back on the program and going elsewhere.

Bobber · 06-21-2007, 10:39 AM

What a silly string.

CyinCo · 06-21-2007, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by SuperCy

My senior year was the year we went 0-10-1.
Walden kicked a field goal at the end of the game at OSU instead of going for the touchdown.
When asked about going for the tie instead of the win he stated something to the fact "Sometimes you play not to lose."
What?!?!?!?!? They hadn't won a game and he was playing not to lose???

I was at a few Nebraska games where we didn't get a first down until the
2nd half. When we did get the first down the crowd would cheer like we just scored a touchdown.

I, like many other alum, went through school without ever seeing us beat the Hawks.

I think that some people need a new perspective. You've been spoiled by recent "success." You've had a year or two that didn't turn out the way you wanted it to. Well lahdee frickin' dah. Don't knock those of us that have been through the REALLY bad times.

The Mizzou game and the KU game from a few years ago? That hurt. I'm not going to deny that, but after sitting through debacle after debacle......nothing surprises me anymore.

I had student season tix that year. 0-10-1. I went to every home game. I remember a game (Mizzou, I think) where it was raining lightly all day. There was maybe 3000 people in the stands. Anyone who was there was begging to see Troy Davis on the Field but Walden wouldn't play him. Wow, if is wasn't for the drinking before the game, I really don't know how I would have made it through a game like that.