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Old 06-22-2007, 10:20 PM   #46
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Re: Mike Taylor skates -- for now

Originally Posted by peteypie View Post
Look, all I'm saying is that he makes alot of mistakes on the court. We will never be great with him at the helm. Granted we will probably be better off with him next year, because we need someone to score, but if he didn't play I think we would be just as good of a team by the end of the year. I'm not trying to hate, I'm just saying that if we lost him it would not be the end of the world.
Hey, I totally agree that if he is running the point full time, we are going to have a TON of problems. BUT, if Garrett is good enough to take that burden off his hands, the team could be pretty good. IMO, if MT can just run off screens and shoot or ball fake and penetrate, he can be a great asset. If he's asked to run the team, set up the offense and bring the ball up the court, we're in trouble. The other thing is that if the team is down by 15, MT is basically the only guy we have that can bring ISU back in the game.

Even with his obvious turnover issues, he's a difference maker. It's easy to see that him playing this year is worth an extra 3-5 wins. Now, if you are basically throwing away this year as an "NIT at best" year, then I can see why you wouldn't mind seeing him booted. I personally am not throwing away this year.

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Old 06-23-2007, 02:37 AM   #47
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Re: Mike Taylor skates -- for now

B muff, totally agree. That is all i was trying to say. Sorry i became the bad guy al the sudden. that is just what i was thinking. what happened to IMO
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Old 06-23-2007, 07:21 AM   #48
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Re: Mike Taylor skates -- for now

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Gotta drop the hammer on him. Heck, I just tossed my 2 year old out on the street for spilling his milk on the floor. He's obviously a repeat offender since it's the second time in as many days. I'm worried what my neighbor might think if I don't set a precedent now. In my house of moral superiority, there's no room for interpretation, you're either right or wrong.
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Old 06-23-2007, 07:25 AM   #49
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Old 06-23-2007, 07:26 AM   #50
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One poster mentions 4 run-ins with the law, what were they? I'm aware of the cough medicine and fire extinguisher problems while he was at ISU and the reported DWI before he enrolled at ISU.

I don't like Mikes behavior. His arrest for theft just after the fire extinguisher deal is a very poor decision. To me it indicates a bigger issue with Mike's character. My suspicion is he has shoplifted many times before, but just hasn't been caught.

That said, the two legal problems he's had since coming to ISU don't reach a level of kicking a kid off the team. I also think that any legal problems MT had prior to coming to ISU were known by G-Mac, so G-Mac knew he wasn't getting a saint and might have to deal with some disciplinary issues with Mike.

I understand some peoples attitude that playing in college sports is a priviledge and not right- so athletes should show their appreciation and stay out of trouble. The only problem is that is not reality in our society. Top athletes are coddled by our society from a young age. Parents invest their lives in their childrens athletic careers, they are revered by their high school classmates, they are put on a pedestal by their community and many coaches treat their star palyers differently.

I also feel that universities make millions of dollars off the efforts of 18-22 year old young people, so universities have a responsible to work through some of the disciplinary problems that arise. Mike's 2 problems haven't reached the level where he should be discarded by ISU. But in all cases if a 3rd offense occurs within a kids college career he should be booted off the team or dismissed from the team but remain on scholarship to attend class.

In the past I seem to remember guys like Vroman & Homan having similar multiple offenses and don't seem to remember much of a call to have Homan booted.
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Old 06-23-2007, 11:29 AM   #51
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Re: Mike Taylor skates -- for now

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"He understands that his margin for error is zero" McDermott said. "He has to act in a certain way or the next step...is totally off the team".

I wish McDermott would have made that statement a little earlier in Taylor's ISU career.
I would agree with that...but at least he did put his foot down. Albeit maybe a transgression too late.

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