Spencer Tillman predicts that ISU...

Cydkar · 07-05-2007, 10:26 PM

Remember, even the Missouri game was given to us at the end.

goldmember · 07-05-2007, 10:28 PM

Is there a podcast of the interview or show?

Drive4cy · 07-05-2007, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by goldmember

Is there a podcast of the interview or show?

Sporting News Radio

That's all I found but it appears to not be free.

superfan · 07-05-2007, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by iccyfan

I'll have to respectfully disagree with you on this statement. Chizik's pedigree is exciting to diehard ISU fans and the hope is that he'll be able to use his recruiting contacts to upgrade the program. I can tell you from personal experience that this hiring isn't impressing anybody in Iowa City, IA, Columbia, MO or Boulder, CO. The national media isn't overly excited about it because they've seen it before, ie - David Cutcliffe to Ole Miss, etc.

Point taken, but to play devil's advocate, I can make countering arguments by using Barry Alvarez to Wisconsin or Greg Schiano to Rutgers.

All I want is to see some physical dominance this year. The one thing that stuck in my mind from last year was watching the Texas D-linemen run through us like the diarrhea. I'd love to see an opposing D-lineman on his back 20 yards from the LOS or some instant penetration (giggity) by our D-line.

SlyCy · 07-05-2007, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by cyclone#1

"will win 8, possible 9 games" this year under Chizik. He also said he believed that Chizik was the best coaching hire of any of the 25 or 30 new DI coaches hired this past year. Spencer went to OU, lives in Houston, and knows the Big 12 pretty well.

This was on the Tim Brando radio show on Sporting News Radio. Do you have this show on the air in Iowa?

Did he say which 8 or 9?

ISUAlum2002 · 07-05-2007, 11:19 PM

I would run naked up and down my own street, in the daylight, in my neighborhood where I still have to show my face to my fellow neighbors....if our team ended up winning 9 games this coming season.

I drink the kool-aid at times, but I think 5-6 wins would be a landmark season with the upcoming schedule and new staff.

iccyfan · 07-05-2007, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by superfan

Point taken, but to play devil's advocate, I can make countering arguments by using Barry Alvarez to Wisconsin or Greg Schiano to Rutgers.

I like the Alvarez comparison; defensive coordinator from successful program goes to a downtrodden school without fertile in-state recruiting (though UW doesn't really have any in-state competition).

Sciano's a little bit of a different story as New Jersey has always been a fertile recruiting grounds; all he had to do was convince the home-grown talent to stay home. I know that's an over-simplification, but GC doesn't have the luxury of a nearby HS talent base and no in-state competition.

Just to be clear, I'm not "down" on GC; just enjoying a little lively conversation! Nobody wants GC to enjoy great success more than I do (so long as he doesn't use ISU as a springboard back to the SEC)!

AirWalke · 07-06-2007, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by iccyfan

I like the Alvarez comparison; defensive coordinator from successful program goes to a downtrodden school without fertile in-state recruiting (though UW doesn't really have any in-state competition).

Sciano's a little bit of a different story as New Jersey has always been a fertile recruiting grounds; all he had to do was convince the home-grown talent to stay home. I know that's an over-simplification, but GC doesn't have the luxury of a nearby HS talent base and no in-state competition.

Interesting juxtaposition, iccyfan, very interesting!

I think it's tough to use history as an example because of all the variables that go into a coach's success at any given school. Just because Barry Alvarez was able to turn UW's football program around doesn't translate to instant success for Chizik at ISU, but the same goes for David Cutcliffe at Ole Miss.

I guess I shouldn't be one to discourage sports talk during the dry spells on message boards during the summer, though.

Hopefully football season will get here soon so that our fears can be, uh, quelled...

cyclonenum1 · 07-06-2007, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by iccyfan

I'll have to respectfully disagree with you on this statement. Chizik's pedigree is exciting to diehard ISU fans and the hope is that he'll be able to use his recruiting contacts to upgrade the program. I can tell you from personal experience that this hiring isn't impressing anybody in Iowa City, IA, Columbia, MO or Boulder, CO. The national media isn't overly excited about it because they've seen it before, ie - David Cutcliffe to Ole Miss, etc.

JP could have generated excitement about a Brian Kelly hiring; heck, I was enthralled via my own internet research and by watching Central Michigan play! If JP trots out his achievements at Grand Valley State (multiple national titles, many offensive records including 59 points / game over a season) and the quick turnaround he accomplished at CMU, the fanbase is just as mobilized as they are now.

My own personal analogy for JP's decision. GC is a 5* HS recruit with all the potential in the world. BK was a JC All-American with question marks as to whether his talent would translate to the Big XII. I think BK was the coaching equivalent of Seneca Wallace; let's hope GC turns out to be Carson Palmer or Matt Leinert rather than Rocky Hinds or Matt Gutierrez!

P.S. I long ago renewed my five season tickets and increased my donation to the NCC. I'm not a naysayer, just a pragmatist.

P.P.S. Shout-out to Airwalke for his use of the word "copious" in an earlier post. Can you work "juxtaposition" in later?

Sounds like these people in Iowa City who aren't "impressed" with the Chizik hire are probably the same people who were saying we could never get another coach as good as McCarney if we let him go. I was always concerned about how glowingly all of our opponents would talk about McCarney. Frankly, I like the fact that our opponents are trying to downplay our hire...it means they are somewhat concerned or scared.

I don't live in Iowa so most of the things I hear about ISU (other than their website and this website) is from the "national media". Frankly, the buzz that was created by Chizik coming to Ames was (and continues to be) great on the national stage. Witness Tim Brando specifically asking Spencer Tillman about ISU's hiring of Chizik and their prospects on his national radio show just yesterday. There has been virtually no talk of ISU on the national stage for some time now...Chizik's hire changed that. I live in SEC country and I can tell you that everyone down here took notice when the ex-Auburn DC was hired at ISU!

cyclonenum1 · 07-06-2007, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by SlyCy

Did he say which 8 or 9?

He said, and I quote..."8, possibly 9".

cycloneworld · 07-06-2007, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by ISUAlum2002

I drink the kool-aid at times, but I think 5-6 wins would be a landmark season with the upcoming schedule and new staff.

I don't think that if we win 5 or 6 it should be considered a "landmark season." Mac won 4 games against the same exact schedule. Except this year we have OU, Texas, and Iowa at home.

IMO, winning 7+ would be landmark, 5-6 would be an good season, 4 is average, and less than 3 would be disappointing.

And whenever Iowa State is predicted to be good (see 2002, 2006), we crap our pants and win only a few games.

cyclonenum1 · 07-06-2007, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by cycloneworld

And whenever Iowa State is predicted to be good (see 2002, 2006), we crap our pants and win only a few games.

You need to remember that the Dan McCarney era of "crapping in our pants" has ended!

It is a new day, my friend!

darts180 · 07-06-2007, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by cyclone#1

You need to remember that the Dan McCarney era of "crapping in our pants" has ended!

It is a new day, my friend!

Hey, hey, hey, that's not fair. Because, even though Iowa State lost many, many games due to decisions made on the sideline, it was ALL Barney Cotton's fault. Even before he coached at Iowa State, his aura infected the sidelines, and made Dan take the ball first in an overtime game(first blunder that came to mind, but there are many, many, many, ma....well you get the point), so I think that you need to lay off the previous coach. It's OK for our fans to expect the worst, Lord knows they have seen enough of it for the past 20 years.

ornryactor · 07-06-2007, 09:45 AM

Ugh, let's never mention Barney Cotton's name ever again. That man was an outright disaster.

On a similar topic, what was the name of the main defensive coordinator last year? He seemed like he was the only guy on the staff who knew how football worked. Does anyone know where he ended up, or if he even has another job?

darts180 · 07-06-2007, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by ornryactor

Ugh, let's never mention Barney Cotton's name ever again. That man was an outright disaster.

On a similar topic, what was the name of the main defensive coordinator last year? He seemed like he was the only guy on the staff who knew how football worked. Does anyone know where he ended up, or if he even has another job?

John Skladeny (sp), ended up at Central Florida, I think.