Did I hear correctly? Larry Eustachy to coach at Barry Stevens Event?

[clonecone]

Alcolholism is not a disease, it can be controlled with willpower. It is an excuse by the weak to justify their actions.

Know-it-all-ism is a disease, however. It tends to inflict those whose brains are slightly smaller than normal. Support groups exist, go seek help!

[Incyte]

Babies are born addicted to all sorts of narcotic crap mom chooses to put in her body. This happens all the time in the community you live in. The baby shows symptoms of narcotic withdrawl at birth. So the newborn lacks willpower, I guess?

Pin brian's post. It's beyond silly.

I think there is a difference in the addictive power of alcohol and narcotics.

[SpokaneCY]

Larry's crap was well known long before the kid from Missouri did Witosky's story for him. Pollard would have managed this in a professional manner.

But the same result - he would have been gone. LE decimated the roster, wasn't selling tickets and wasn't winning games. In fact some of our darkest times and worst losses came after the champeenships. So lets just thank him for his contribution and if you like, you can follow Southern Miss and try to keep up with the roster changes.

The good old days weren't nearly as good as we all seem to think....

[cybsball20]

Well alcoholism is in the DSM-IV, so it is classified as a disease... I suppose brian would argue that depression is just people in a bad mood? Bi polar people can't make up their mind?

[cycloneworld]

#1. Larry was coaching when I was in school (expect for my senior year which was Morgan's team) so I remember his teams, his players, and his on-the-court personality. All of those front-row seats in Hilton watching his teams play...I have good memories of those.

#2. Larry may have been an ******* to his players but one time I went to a Cyclone outing in Ottumwa with Pete Taylor and LE as the special guests. Our table was next to theirs and we talked back and forth most of the night. LE couldn't have been nicer. Instead of blowing us off and giving us 1 word answers, he was the exact opposite...he was asking questions about our lives, our jobs, what we liked best about Cyclone basketball, etc. He was very engaged in the converstation and we felt like we were just talking to an old friend. Maybe it was the booze talking but his demeanor that night was great from a fan perspective.

#3. I'll never call out someone who is an alcoholic saying they have the willpower just to stop.

It's easy to fire someone and be done with them, its not as easy to stand behind them and help them get help. ISU chose the former (and I doubt Bruce made that decision completely himself). It's done, cannot be changed. However, you can't fault people for taking the side of standing behind him and getting him help.

[Incyte]

The good old days weren't nearly as good as we all seem to think....

For goodness gracious he won two B12 championships.

[cyclonenum1]

But the same result - he would have been gone. LE decimated the roster, wasn't selling tickets and wasn't winning games. In fact some of our darkest times and worst losses came after the champeenships. So lets just thank him for his contribution and if you like, you can follow Southern Miss and try to keep up with the roster changes.

The good old days weren't nearly as good as we all seem to think....

Actually, the "good old days" of the mid 80s were as good as I recall. We had great basketball players, we played exciting basketball, we had one of the nation's marquee coaches, we had a packed house for nearly every game, our crowds affected the game, we became nationally relevant, and we rarely lost on the Hilton floor. It was so great they named it...Hilton Magic.

[Incyte]

Well alcoholism is in the DSM-IV, so it is classified as a disease... I suppose brian would argue that depression is just people in a bad mood? Bi polar people can't make up their mind?

Depression is treated w/ drugs just as bi-polar disorder. Alcoholism is treated in a much different way (which believe it or not actually involves the concept of God).

[cybsball20]

Depression is treated w/ drugs just as bi-polar disorder. Alcoholism is treated in a much different way (which believe it or not actually involves the concept of God).

There are numerous treatments for alcholoism... Some of them do include the use of drugs...

[brianhos]

Actually, the "good old days" of the mid 80s were as good as I recall. We had great basketball players, we played exciting basketball, we had one of the nation's marquee coaches, we had a packed house for nearly every game, our crowds affected the game, we became nationally relevant, and we rarely lost on the Hilton floor. It was so great they named it...Hilton Magic.

How many big 8 championships did we have then? How many Elite 8 appearances. I love Johnny, but his teams played no defense and rarely won outside of hilton.

[Incyte]

There are numerous treatments for alcholoism... Some of them do include the use of drugs...

What drugs?

I have a hard time believing all persons who are alcoholics and who hurt others due to intoxication are not somewhat culpable for their actions.

That's why we put narcotics users and alcoholics who drink and drive in jail: there's some culpability there despite the addiction.

[joepublic]

I think there is a difference in the addictive power of alcohol and narcotics.

What does that have to do with anything?

[iccyfan]

Actually, the "good old days" of the mid 80s were as good as I recall. We had great basketball players, we played exciting basketball, we had one of the nation's marquee coaches, we had a packed house for nearly every game, our crowds affected the game, we became nationally relevant, and we rarely lost on the Hilton floor. It was so great they named it...Hilton Magic.

Are you saying there was no "Hilton Magic" under Lynn Nance and Ken Trickey?

I'm with you #1; the atmosphere in Hilton when LE was winning conference titles was great but it COULDN'T have been better than when Johnny was beating KU and Oklahoma in the mid-80's. ISU basketball hadn't tasted any success in the preceeding forty years so those games were SWEET! The whole campus rejoiced when we got an NIT BID in 1984...

[ISUChippewa]

On a different tack, if in fact LE is coaching in this event, I have to wonder what the average USM fan and his athletic director feel about it. If I was that USM fan or his boss, I would want LE to use his summer to concentrate on recruiting and building up his program as opposed to coaching in a charity game a thousand miles away.

[CloneAggie]

What drugs?

From Food and Drug Administration Home Page...

The second drug, ReVia (naltrexone), approved by FDA in December 1994 for treating alcoholism, acts on the opioid receptor in the brain to help prevent relapse and reduce alcohol cravings in those who drink. ReVia was developed by The DuPont Merck Pharmaceutical Co., which previously marketed naltrexone under the trade name Trexan for treating narcotic dependency. The drug remains available for treating narcotic dependency but under the new brand name, ReVia.

In a 12-week study of 70 alcoholic men, 23 percent of the ReVia-treated patients relapsed, compared with 54 percent of those receiving placebo. Of those who drank during the study, 50 percent of those on ReVia relapsed to heavy drinking, compared with 95 percent of those receiving placebo.

A study of 104 alcoholic men and women found that patients who took ReVia were about twice as successful in quitting drinking as patients who received placebo.

However, because ReVia was tested in conjunction with supportive therapy, FDA approved its use only as an adjunct to supportive therapy (such as group therapy) in treating alcoholism.

Studies show the drug is nonaddictive. But it can cause liver toxicity when given at doses higher than recommended. Therefore, it is not recommended for people with active hepatitis and other liver diseases.

NIAAA is sponsoring additional studies to determine which patients are best suited for treatment with ReVia, as well as what dose, therapy combinations, and treatment duration work best.