I want to win half our games this year and next.
Need to recruit to make that happen. The talent that McD recruited is probably more impressive than what Gene has pulled in. Several of thoise add ons from last year's recruiting class were originally thinking ISU (beyond the six verbals.)
I am disappointed so far. I am sure that the last recruit will never start a game. Then we lose one of our top commits.
Keep in mind what this recruiting staff is getting paid. We should expect more. The whole idea was to bring in quality players from the southeast and southwest. Almost all our new guys are from the midwest and are not highly rated.
Now we supposedly have a chicken/egg scenario. You can't recruit without winning and you can't win without recruiting.
Personally, I think we can have a DECENT recruiting class, with some 2s but more 3s, and have Chizik coach the snot out of them. Beat them down. Build them up. Win with a lesser recruiting class. You don't think that's something you can brag to future recruits about? Remember 2007? we had a 2.7 average. Look how talented they became in our system. Look at how much we won with them. Imagine what we can do with your talents.
I think the biggest problem is they're giving Chizik this coming year to establish but the Big XII North must be won next year. What kind of attitude is that? As much as I think we're gonna surprise people this year, can we give the guy 2-4 years to have his system full swing before we critique? You all thought he was gonna pull the studs in with no track record whatsoever? That's ridiculous.
Well we gave the last guy 12 years and it did not happen. I see your point. By 2019, we will know if we are now better.
I think it was Chizik's opening press conference when he said that in recruiting, they're going to start in the state and in the area and move outward. I think it'd be fair of us to withhold judgment.
This is ridiculous. I haven't read the entire thread yet, but this seems to be a common theme with the first posts.
Gene salvaged a recruiting class with nothing from the previous staff. He found some kids that are going to contribute right away.
So far, he is targeting the same type of kid, athletic, with room to put on weight/muscle. He is recruiting speed and athleticism, for a change in this program.
Did people think that he was going to come in, and magically Iowa State was going to be attractive to 5 star recruits??? Did people honestly think that Iowa State was a respected program, nationally??? I know that it isn't fun to face this truth, but we are known as a program that beats Iowa (although we have lost 3 out of 4 to them), but loses games to Baylor. All of these "miracle" wins that people talk about on here were a bad team beating another bad team.
Maybe if we would have won the North one of the past two years we would have some room to think more of ourselves. However since that didn't happen, and the way that it didn't happen, people see that us having a chance to win was nothing more than the North being pathetic.
I am not slamming the previous staff with this post, but there needs to be some reality injected into this Chizik hasn't done much to this point thread.
There is a BIG difference between recruiting quality JUCO's, and taking flyers on kids who have no chance of making it to campus just to say that you recruited a 4 star.
Chizik is here to win, and do it as soon as possible. I think that JUCO recruiting is a necessary tool for us, at this point. There weren't a lot of tough d 1 football players left on the roster, and so you create your depth, and starters in this manner.
Now, I think that after he is here for awhile, he will gradually phase JUCO heavy classes out.
Now as far as recruiting, Mac didn't exactly light it up. Please remember that his seat was nowhere near warm going into his 12th year, and when he resigned, he had a grand total of 6 commits, and they knew Fabian Brown wasn't going to make it, so 5 in the 12th year at the school. Plus his last two recruiting classes were ranked either 11th or 12th each year.
So I will offer you the same advice you offered all of us who weren't fans of the previous coach last Fall. If you don't like the direction of the football program then go be a Hawk fan. We don't need bad fans like you here.:no6xn:
Face the facts, the state of Iowa might only produce 4-5 Big 10/Big 12 caliber players each year. The state of Texas produces 200+. If Gene Chizik is going to build a quality program at ISU it is going to be by identifying 2&3 star kids who get overlooked & our new staff then coaches them up.
How many 3&4 star athletes did Boise State have last year and they beat OU? Look at Kirk Ferentz' Iowa teams from a few years ago- it was built on developing 2 star athletes or walk-ons. Guys like Gallery, Greenway, Clarke, etc were not highly touted out of HS.