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Old 08-11-2007, 11:54 AM   #1
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Blog from the straw poll

The Chicago Tribune is running a blog from the straw poll today, for anyone interested.

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Old 08-11-2007, 12:26 PM   #2
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When is this all over? I really hope Iowa loses the first in the nation caucuses.


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Old 08-11-2007, 03:55 PM   #3
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Make mine hot dogs. Typical French - they are hot dogs. Add the fries.

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Old 08-11-2007, 04:26 PM   #4
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When is this all over? I really hope Iowa loses the first in the nation caucuses.
That won't happen.
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Old 08-11-2007, 05:03 PM   #5
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That won't happen.
They should just move the iowa caucus for 2012 to Nov 5th 2008. It seems like it is getting that way anyway.


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Old 08-11-2007, 08:24 PM   #6
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Mitt Romney wins the straw poll. Should we be surprised? Should we care?

Deep within the heart of Iowa, a storm is brewing...
... the winds of change ripple throughout the vast fields of corn surrounding the small college town of Ames.

The Gene Chizik era of football continues, and, with it, a renewed attitude of pride, determination, and success.

This is Cyclone Football.
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Mitt Romney wins the straw poll. Should we be surprised? Should we care?
And who said you cannot buy an election? His campaign called daily asking if we needed a ride or daycare for the event.


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Old 08-11-2007, 08:51 PM   #8
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When is this all over? I really hope Iowa loses the first in the nation caucuses.
The only way that happens is if the entire presidential race process gets scrapped. Iowa's first-in-the-nation status is state law; we are required to have it.

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Mitt Romney wins the straw poll. Should we be surprised? Should we care?
No, and no.


I gotta put this in, though: I watched all of the candidate's speeches today. I had never in my life heard of John Cox before, but I'll be damned if he isn't one of the best public speakers I've ever heard. Easily the best of the candidates that were there today, and I think the best of any candidate I've seen. His speech was fabulously well-written, too; dunno if he wrote it or not.

I was wandering around, and stumbled upon the chance to sit down with him in the shade with 5 or 6 other people and just talk about issues with him for a while. Through that, I found out that the reason nobody knows about him is that the major media is actively blacking him out because nobody knows who he is. The guy is an absolute riot- constantly cracking jokes; very laid-back, down-to-earth guy. He's probably the least politician-esque politician I've ever met. Check him out, if only because I guarantee you've never heard of him before.

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Old 08-11-2007, 09:02 PM   #9
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The only way that happens is if the entire presidential race process gets scrapped. Iowa's first-in-the-nation status is state law; we are required to have it.


No, and no.


I gotta put this in, though: I watched all of the candidate's speeches today. I had never in my life heard of John Cox before, but I'll be damned if he isn't one of the best public speakers I've ever heard. Easily the best of the candidates that were there today, and I think the best of any candidate I've seen. His speech was fabulously well-written, too; dunno if he wrote it or not.

I was wandering around, and stumbled upon the chance to sit down with him in the shade with 5 or 6 other people and just talk about issues with him for a while. Through that, I found out that the reason nobody knows about him is that the major media is actively blacking him out because nobody knows who he is. The guy is an absolute riot- constantly cracking jokes; very laid-back, down-to-earth guy. He's probably the least politician-esque politician I've ever met. Check him out, if only because I guarantee you've never heard of him before.

The state law is that we must hold our caucus before New Hampshire. New Hampshire has a law saying they must hold their primary before any other primaries. Therefore, another caucus could jump ahead of Iowa and Iowa wouldn't be breaking its own law.
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Old 08-13-2007, 07:00 AM   #10
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So what is the difference between a caucus and a primary anyway?

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Old 08-13-2007, 07:50 AM   #11
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Caucus is first, primary is second.

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Old 08-13-2007, 07:57 AM   #12
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A primary is an election like any other election, you go to a polling place sometime between 7AM and 7PM (or whatever the polling hours are) and cast a secret vote.

A caucus is a big meeting where people cast public votes to assign delegates for a bigger meeting and you have to be there at a set time.
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Old 08-13-2007, 08:31 AM   #13
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I was talking to a guy from Missouri last week. He said you wouldn't even know there was a presidential campaign going on if you live down there. No commercials, no candidate visits, very little media coverage. I know the economic impact here must be great, but couldn't we shorten this up a little?
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Old 08-13-2007, 08:51 AM   #14
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I was talking to a guy from Missouri last week. He said you wouldn't even know there was a presidential campaign going on if you live down there. No commercials, no candidate visits, very little media coverage. I know the economic impact here must be great, but couldn't we shorten this up a little?
Their going to need to introduce electricity to missouri to have much "media coverage"

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Old 08-13-2007, 12:36 PM   #15
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Eric Thayer for The New York Times
Mitt Romney with his sons Craig, left, Matt, center, and Tagg, speaking, in Nevada, Iowa, on Friday. More Photos > Published: August 11, 2007
AMES, Iowa, Aug. 10 — They have driven here from California, Ohio, Canada and Texas; flown from Michigan, Utah and Florida. There are aunts, uncles, cousins, second cousins, in-laws, nieces, nephews and grandchildren.
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At last count, 96 members of the Romney clan, a veritable army, have arrived here over the last few days to help out at Saturday’s Republican straw poll, bolstering what is already a huge ground operation for the event that far outstrips any other campaign for the party’s 2008 presidential nomination.
Leading the shock troops will be Mr. Romney’s five sons, who have come to occupy an increasingly prominent place in his campaign, giving speeches, being hosts at fund-raisers, blogging and even weighing in on strategy, all the while helping their father paint a not-so-subtle contrast to some of his leading rivals.
It is Mr. Romney’s family portrait that lends him credibility in his appeals to all-important social conservative voters here, many of whom are still grappling with whether to believe he is really one of them despite some of his past positions, like support of abortion rights.
Mr. Romney mentions his high school sweetheart and wife of nearly 40 years, Ann, their five sons and 10 grandchildren almost without fail on campaign stops, often just before plunging into language about strengthening the American family and the importance of “family values.” Campaign appearances often feature him, his wife, a son or two and even a grandchild.
In contrast, Rudolph W. Giuliani, who is leading in the Republican polls, has been married three times and his two children are not campaigning with him. (Earlier this week, Mr. Giuliani’s daughter, Caroline, drew headlines when it was revealed that she had expressed support online for Senator Barack Obama, Democrat of Illinois.)
Of the hordes of Romneys here, perhaps nobody plays a more central role than Tagg Romney, 37, the eldest son. At debates, he has become one of the campaign’s most visible representatives in the spin room. He is also part of his father’s inner circle, usually the quickest to offer an unfiltered critique about how he performed in an event. In campaign staff meetings, Tagg Romney acts a representative of his father, often pressing others for the kind of additional data to back up their decisions that he anticipates his father will want.
He is also the one whom many in the campaign turn to when they need to deliver difficult advice to the elder Mr. Romney, nudge him on a strategic decision or even to tell him not to use the phrase “null set,” as he did twice during the Republican debate in New Hampshire. In February, when the campaign’s budget committee decided it needed to allocate more money to building up its staff on the ground in the early voting states — while Mr. Romney wanted to save more for last-minute advertising — it was Tagg Romney they turned to for help persuading his father to change his mind.
Even so, those inside the campaign said Tagg Romney wore his connection to his father loosely. His other main function, they said, is that of head cheerleader for morale, organizing softball, touch football and most recently a staff tennis tournament, with the championship held at the court at his parents’ house.
It was Tagg Romney who organized the extended family’s effort here this week for the straw poll. They will be greeting the people arriving from across the state on campaign buses and escorting them to the voting booths. Even the grandchildren have been delegated to offer a hearty Romney welcome.
The most visible emblem of the sons’ involvement in the campaign has become the “Mitt Mobile,” an R.V. bought on eBay by Mitt Romney that Josh Romney, 31, a real estate developer in Salt Lake City, spent the summer driving to all 99 counties in Iowa. It will now make its way across the country.
Of the other sons, Matt Romney, 35, a real estate developer in San Diego, has concentrated on fund-raising, tapping his business contacts from Harvard Business School (three of the five Romney sons graduated from the institution). Craig Romney, 26, a music producer at an advertising agency in New York, is about to take an extended leave from his company to join the campaign full time. He has visited the most states of all the sons, 16 or 17 in all. Even Ben Romney, 29, a third-year medical student, has been able to squeeze in some campaign appearances.
The Romney sons, who write about their father and their travels on the campaign’s blog, The Five Brothers, have drawn mocking on the Internet for what have been called cloying posts and for somehow appearing too wholesome. Mrs. Romney was tarred during her husband’s 1994 run for the Senate when she said that she and her husband had never argued, and just this week the candidate drew criticism when he defended his sons’ decision not to serve in the armed forces and added, “One of the ways my sons are showing support for our nation is helping me get elected.”
The brothers declare their family is hardly perfect, but describe a childhood steeped in Mormonism and family. Days would start with Scripture study at a neighbor’s house before school. Sundays were devoted to church. Monday evenings typically featured one of the parents giving a short Scripture lesson.
This is not the first time that relatives have pitched in on a campaign. In Mr. Romney’s unsuccessful race for the Senate in 1994 in Massachusetts, his father, George Romney, a former governor of Michigan and onetime presidential hopeful himself who was by then in his 80s, led 58 family members who descended upon the state to stump.
This time, there are just more of them.

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