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    Kickoffs lead to more injuries?

    So I see this on the front page of yahoo...People are already saying moving kickoffs back to the 30 are going to cause more concussions? That seems to be stretching it a little far...

    Kickoffs from 30-yard line could create more returns, injuries - NCAA Football - Yahoo! Sports
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    Re: Kickoffs lead to more injuries?

    people are all worried about concussions now with the nfl former players that are coming forward with head problems. its gonna get old fast. the first thing you are taught when you get your pads when youre 10 years old is how football is dangerous and you have to read the "WARNING: Use of this helmet..." label on the helmet.

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    Re: Kickoffs lead to more injuries?

    Why don't we just place the ball on the thirty yard line and put a bunch of flags on all of the players while we're at it? This is TACKLE FOOTBALL!!! I understand that concussions are a horrible thing, I've had a couple myself (my migraines are probably a result of). But when you sign up to play football generally you understand there are risks, injuries being the major risk, and concussions are one of those risks.
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    Re: Kickoffs lead to more injuries?

    Mmmm...dunno. isufbcurt....what is your opinion on this subject?

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    Re: Kickoffs lead to more injuries?

    One thing that should be corrected is the intentional grounding rule. The QB already has a roughing the passer penalty. Now he can throw the ball away as long as he is not in the pocket. This is not how football was intended to be played. Admittedly, I see ISU taking full advantage of the rule this year.

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    Re: Kickoffs lead to more injuries?

    Quote Originally Posted by hoosman View Post
    One thing that should be corrected is the intentional grounding rule. The QB already has a roughing the passer penalty. Now he can throw the ball away as long as he is not in the pocket. This is not how football was intended to be played. Admittedly, I see ISU taking full advantage of the rule this year.
    Doesn't it also have to be thrown out of bounds across the line of scrimmage?

    I agree that in some circumstances the QB is overprotected. Personally, I think the "running into the passer" rule should be eliminated, or at the very least, some of the questionable "roughing" calls should be downgraded.

    However, today's game is different from the one that you speak of - when it was "determined the way the game should be played," 30-50 years ago (or more), defensive linemen were nowhere near as big as they are today. Back then some of the D-linemen and quarterbacks weighed about the same, probably some D-linemen weighed less. Nowadays, 99% of d-linemen weigh significantly more than the quarterbacks, some of them by 100 pounds or more. To make matters worse, those guys also aren't lethargic - most of those same guys are faster than the (traditional stay-in-the-pocket) quarterback. Because of this (although it pains me to say it because I was a D-lineman in high school), quarterbacks need that avenue of protection that they didn't need 30-50 years ago. Sure, many people think that today's QBs are prisses compared to the likes of Starr, Namath, Unitas, and Staubach, among others. But none of those guys face the defenses that the Mannings and Bradys of the world face today.
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    Re: Kickoffs lead to more injuries?

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    Why don't we just place the ball on the thirty yard line and put a bunch of flags on all of the players while we're at it? This is TACKLE FOOTBALL!!!
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    Re: Kickoffs lead to more injuries?

    They just need to go one step further, and not allow kickoffs; then no one would ever be injured, because the game wouldn't get played....

    I detest risk-averse people.

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    Re: Kickoffs lead to more injuries?

    The way to get rid of the concussion problem is really simple...either totally eliminate the facemask on the helmet or go back to the single and double bar helmets of 40 years ago...this will keep guys from throwing themselves head-first into other's heads.

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    Re: Kickoffs lead to more injuries?

    Well Mr Fick, I am surprised you remember when I got my concussion on the kickoff return.

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    Re: Kickoffs lead to more injuries?

    When I played f-ball in high school the only time I ever was in fear was during kickoffs. Getting hit full speed is not a lot of fun but it is part of the game.

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    Re: Kickoffs lead to more injuries?

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    Doesn't it also have to be thrown out of bounds
    No.
    across the line of scrimmage?
    Yes.

    Though I don't know what happens for a throw that goes out of bounds before the line of scrimmage--whether it continues past or not.
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