Hey, at least he's got something to look back too.
Jealous, you say? Thanks for making my day with one of the most ridiculous postings I've ever read on this site!!! When will all you Sqwaks get that Ferentz had a great 3 year run, BUT WHAT HAS HE DONE SINCE THEN??? His program has become progressively worse over the last 4 years with no signs (yet) of him being able to right the ship. If you took off your black and gold blinders just for five minutes maybe you'd understand the majority of the flaws that the rest of the nation sees in the Iowa program.
Besides, 3 years from now we'll see just which fan base is jealous of the other
You can call the program mediocre the last 2 1/2 years. Not sure you can call the coach that.
All the Hawk fans I know are worried like crazy for this season now. I always thought Iowa would be at best 7-5. I'm looking almost dead on so far. Iowa still has to play Indiana, Northwestern, and Illinios. None of these are big time powers but all of them play a spread offense. I see Iowa losing two of these three, add in Penn St and a Purdue or MN and there you go.
I still think we have just as bright of a future as Iowa. Until they shake up that staff, I'm not going to lose sleep about a national power rising up in the Eastern part of the state.
Ferentz is in his 12th year as a head coach in college. His record is 69-65. 5 of his seasons have resulted in losing records. He has only won more than 7 games in a season three times (the 3 season you hawkeyes look at to try and validate his "greatness" as a coach and all of the money you are paying him).
If you look at just the 3 good years he had (which is what all you hawks want to do) then, yes, you could call him great. Unfortunately, if you look at his entire body of work there can be no other definition than "mediocre" that would apply. Those 3 good years clearly appear to be an aberation.
Why don't you just keep trying to convince yourself that you have a great coach and he is worth the money you are paying him and leave us alone on this board?!
The last two seasons have been mediocre. In fact, Iowa has lost 7 straight games from 2005-2006 that have been decided by 5 points or less.
Just think, 7 of Iowa's 13 over the last two seasons have been by less than 5 points.
Iowa has had only 3 losses decided by 10+ points in that time. It's not like Ferentz hasn't had teams that have been blown off the field the last 2 years - they just aren't winning. This says, to me, that there have been problems in the staff as well as on the team.
Ferentz is more than mediocre, anybody that follows college football knows this.
So far, it looks like Chizik is going to be 0-1 in winning seasons, does this mean he's less than mediocre?
As for Chizik...we do not know that he is going to end up with a losing record at this point in the season...that is purely speculation at this point. And if he does, one year's results do not define his ability as a coach.
On the other hand, with Ferentz we have a pretty long track record (in his 12th year) and he has 5 losing records and only 3 teams that recorded more than 7 wins in a season. The 3 good years you always point to are not the norm for a Kirk Ferentz coached team.
3 losing seasons, 3 ten + win seasons, and 2 mediocre seasons. Let's analyze that a bit more.
The first two seasons were bad. However, when he had recruits in his system, he's gone 44-19, won 2 BigTen championships, and been to 4 January Bowl games including a BCS game.
You're right, for his first 3 seasons, Iowa wasn't very good. But please, give me a break - he needed time to get his system going. He's 44-19 since he flushed out Fry's old players.
If 44-19 is mediocre, then I'm glad to follow a mediocre team.
And if you want to count his first 3 seasons, then we count Chizik's first 3 seasons - and if they are losing seasons, then you better be ready to admit that he's nothing more than mediocre.
How's that for rationalization?
9-3 Outback Bowl
9-2 Capital One Bowl (Big Ten Champs)
7-4 Outback Bowl
I'd say 3 of those four seasons were because of Ferentz and his team.
Finishing 1-3-1 in the Big Ten should get a January Bowl game.
But yes, in 2005 when the Hawks finished 5th in the BT and were 7-4, a January Bowl game was probably because of the well traveling Hawk fans.
I do give Iowa credit for hanging with the big boys in their January bowl games. Beating teams like LSU and Florida, and taking a team like Texas down to the wire is impressive. It's something I hope ISU can mirror someday.
Like every team, Iowa is going to go through rough stretches. This happens to be one of them. I think their fans got a little spoiled with three straight 10 win seasons and five January bowl games, and coming back down to Earth has been tough for them. Iowa has a lot of young talent on both sides of the ball and should be solid in the next few years, so if in two years we're still having this conversation about a rough stretch for them, then I think the Hawkeye faithful will be ready for a change at the top.
That being said, Iowa has 2 Seniors on the offense - Sims and Young. Outside of them, the Iowa offense will remain together for 2-3 years with very little graduations.
The defense is much the same. The Iowa defense in the secondary and d-line depth is extremely young. While this year may not be spectacular, I think we'll see improvement over last year.
The teams the past two years have been less than stellar. But to call Ferentz a mediocre coach right now is ill-informed.
Also, if we're going to talk January bowls and who earns them, we have to remember the bowl package of the Big 10. It puts the Big 12 package to shame. Back in 2000 when we won the Insight.com Bowl, our regular season record (8-3, 5-3) would have given us a really good chance to play in a January bowl game had we been in the Big 10 (smells like Outback Bowl to me). Point is, in the Big 10, you can finish around 4th and still make a January bowl game. To me when Hawk fans use the January bowl game argument, I see it as them flaunting the Big 10 bowl package rather than a great team. Iowa's had good teams, and one great team in the KF era. Too bad ISU beat the one great team Iowa had...
The Big Ten may have a good package, but they did beat Florida, and defending National Champs LSU - as well as hanging close with eventual NC Florida, and almost defeating defending national champs Texas.
I know, I'm talking "defending and future", but those were some good teams that Iowa went 2-2 against (including the 2004 Outback Bowl), and lost by a combined 9 points in the two losses.
Gee, maybe he is overrated. Where is Capt Obvious?