#6 South Florida-I State recruiting virtually identical..

**ketelmeister** · 09-30-2007, 07:20 PM

Checking Rivals.com, South Florida and Iowa State's recruiting ranking is virtually identical since 2004. The question is, how are they ranked #6? Same goes with Boise State and many other successful schools. It seems to me, ranking doesn't mean much, it's what you know about the players you recruit, how they fit your system and how you develope them. I hope Coach Chizik is the man to do the same for Iowa State.I believe he is. Point is: IT CAN BE DONE.

**CyCloned** · 09-30-2007, 07:32 PM

Rankings tend to be a little skewd by the region a player is in. How many times has Iowa State gotten a 2 star out of Texas or Florida that basically walked into camp and earned a position? More than a couple, that is for sure. There are a lot more good players in Florida than Iowa, and they are playing against better players than the guys in Iowa. Why do you think every team has coaches spending tons of time recruiting Texas and Florida?

**mj4cy** · 09-30-2007, 07:55 PM

Because we are Iowa State.

**darts180** · 10-01-2007, 02:29 PM

The answer is OBVIOUS. Now if people can be honest with themselves, or not, is another question.

**CYVADER** · 10-01-2007, 02:33 PM

crazy that their head coach was offensive coordinator for Morningside College in Sioux City before he went to USF. not even the head coach. just a coordinater

**Knownothing** · 10-01-2007, 02:39 PM

They were not ranked until Dan Mac got there. So if I was Danny I would take full credit.

Oh yeah and Morningside almost beat us a few years ago So he did a good job as a coordinator. Wait he was not a basketball coach. That ruins that logic.

Oh yea and one other thing. Like the poster above said. "we are Iowa State and they are not."

**darts180** · 10-01-2007, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by ISU BET

crazy that their head coach was offensive coordinator for Morningside College in Sioux City before he went to USF. not even the head coach. just a coordinater

It shows that good coaches are good coaches. And, unfortunately for Iowa State, good coaches, with no support, can't win. Conversely, bad coaches can have every team in his division become bad all at once, get more support than any coach ever at Iowa State, and still never win a big game (besides Iowa of course).

**HILLCYD** · 10-01-2007, 02:42 PM

Let's hire Dan back quick!!!

**cybsball20** · 10-01-2007, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by Knownothing

They were not ranked until Dan Mac got there. So if I was Danny I would take full credit.

Oh yeah and Morningside almost beat us a few years ago So he did a good job as a coordinator. Wait he was not a basketball coach. That ruins that logic.

Oh yea and one other thing. Like the poster above said. "we are Iowa State and they are not."

I thought they finished last year ranked... I could be wrong...

When Levitt started at USF the first year was practice only... Then they were non scholly D-1 (Drake), then 1-AA (UNI), then I beleive they were in the Sun Belt before joining the big east...

**bandit** · 10-01-2007, 02:48 PM

Recruiting grades/stars don't mean crap. Look at the "great" class Iowa had in 05 and how awful they are now.

Talented recruits are nice, but it's all about developing them once they are on campus. If you are playing on a D1 team you have talent-it's the coaches that can develop talented players that have success

**darts180** · 10-01-2007, 02:48 PM

[quote=Knownothing;199395]They were not ranked until Dan Mac got there. So if I was Danny I would take full credit.

I am sure that if he hasn't it will be done when he goes job begging

**bos** · 10-01-2007, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by ISU BET

crazy that their head coach was offensive coordinator for Morningside College in Sioux City before he went to USF. not even the head coach. just a coordinater

huh, never knew that. Crazy stuff. Mside has usually been pretty good.

**flander1649** · 10-01-2007, 03:07 PM

Jim Levitt was a K-state guy before he went to South Florida too.

**Wesley** · 10-01-2007, 03:14 PM

We want Dan for Special Teams coach if we have a bad hair day at Tech....

**cyclonenum1** · 10-02-2007, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by ISU BET

crazy that their head coach was offensive coordinator for Morningside College in Sioux City before he went to USF. not even the head coach. just a coordinater

Dude, you need to get your facts straight. Leavitt had stops between Morningside and USF. In fact, he was a grad asst at Iowa for a year. There he met Bill Snyder. Snyder got the job at K-State and took Leavitt with him. Leavitt was involved in getting the moribund K-State program to national prominence. USF decided to add a FB program in the mid 90s and they decided to hire Leavitt because he had experience in program building with Snyder at K-State. That is the chronology of events.

PS: All of these recruiting "rankings" are developed by a bunch of "jock sniffers" that couldn't play themselves and are, frankly, not really worth much.