When is it time for youth movement?

ketelmeister · 10-07-2007, 06:04 PM

When is the time for Arnaud and Bates to take over at QB and I State to look towards next season? Not sure, but I'm ready to look ahead. I hope we keep all the players who haven't played in redshirt status. We know this will take time, and maybe the time has come to build.

vanillathrilla · 10-07-2007, 06:07 PM

Whenever they outplay Meyer in Practice. Until that time, they are not #1.

ISUclones33 · 10-07-2007, 06:07 PM

Hard to tell, any time now would work, we dont exactly have an easy stretch from here on out, Kansas, K State and Mizzou are playing like they want a national championship Texas is struggling but still good, OU is good... Chizik could pull the string anyday now.

bellzisu · 10-07-2007, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by ISUclones33

Hard to tell, any time now would work, we dont exactly have an easy stretch from here on out, Kansas, K State and Mizzou are playing like they want a national championship Texas is struggling but still good, OU is good... Chizik could pull the string anyday now.

33 Had a question for you... Did they keep AA out this weekend just so he doesn't tweak that ankle more, or is it more severe then day to day??

erikbj · 10-07-2007, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by vanillathrilla

Whenever they outplay Meyer in Practice. Until that time, they are not #1.

Maybe Meyer is playing great in practice, but in the games he is NOT playing well. It is time to get the two kids some PT and not just one series here and there, let them play. ISU is already loosing 42-17 (really was 42-3), its not like Meyer is keeping them in the games.

If they don't start playing now and go through their bumps and bruises now, expect the same thing next season.

CyBobby · 10-07-2007, 06:19 PM

After texas and oklahoma its time for the youth movement to start...let arnaud and bates have more playing time .... its time for gc to start thinking of the future...

ISUclones33 · 10-07-2007, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by bellzisu

33 Had a question for you... Did they keep AA out this weekend just so he doesn't tweak that ankle more, or is it more severe then day to day??

Arnauds foot is hurt, its not his ankle... and yes they want him to keep him off of it to prevent it from getting bumped again, he should be good to go this weekend

cstrunk · 10-07-2007, 06:26 PM

I hope we see Bates/Arnaud utilized as a QB this week, both getting chances to throw the ball. Bates needs to be used at QB with something else other than a QB power run play for a loss.

bellzisu · 10-07-2007, 06:26 PM

Thanks 33

ketelmeister · 10-07-2007, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by ISUclones33

Arnauds foot is hurt, its not his ankle... and yes they want him to keep him off of it to prevent it from getting bumped again, he should be good to go this weekend

33..how good is Bates. The real deal?

jumbopackage · 10-07-2007, 06:48 PM

I think around 2008 will be just fine.

Seriously, what message does it send the team when you stop putting your best players on the field?

Meyer has done NOTHING to warrant being pulled. There is no reason to put your second best players on the field when you're trying to win games.

ISUFan22 · 10-07-2007, 06:52 PM

While I think right now Meyer may as well lead us through this gauntlet, it's not true to say he's done nothing to warrant getting benched. He really hasn't looked that great all year. Only solid game was against Iowa, otherwise he's been average or much of the time - below average.

We could get the same type of play from our redshirt freshman (Arnaud) or even our true freshman (Bates). I feel very confident saying that. If correct, that is really bad - those two being the same caliber as a senior 4-year starter.

The big reason ya don't play Arnaud - is to keep him from getting killed and mentally set back, something I feel happened to Meyer in 2006.

iceclone · 10-07-2007, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by ketelmeister

When is the time for Arnaud and Bates to take over at QB and I State to look towards next season? Not sure, but I'm ready to look ahead. I hope we keep all the players who haven't played in redshirt status. We know this will take time, and maybe the time has come to build.

You aim to win each game. Each game you put the players on the field that give you the best chance of winning the game. In my opinion there are no other considerations.

ketelmeister · 10-07-2007, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by ISUFan22

While I think right now Meyer may as well lead us through this gauntlet, it's not true to say he's done nothing to warrant getting benched. He really hasn't looked that great all year. Only solid game was against Iowa, otherwise he's been average or much of the time - below average.

I have to agree. I've been on the Meyer bandwagen since the start of the season, but let's face the facts. His interceptions were key to our loses in at least three games this season. Whether or not they were all his fault, he has not looked like a four year starter other than the Iowa game. With Arnad hurt, the question is, is Bates ready for the likes of Texas etc.? If he is, time to give someone else a chance.

travman23 · 10-07-2007, 06:59 PM

All I have to say is its not going to hurt us one way or another to start playing the players who will be counted on next season because what we are doing right now sure as hell isn't winning us any games and I can't see that getting any better with the teams we have left to play.