Staiger Ineligible!

**Knownothing** · 10-26-2007, 08:37 AM

Jackson from Kansas took 6 grand and some clothes a few years ago and he got 6 games suspension. Lucca took nothing and got a year. THis is obviously biased toward the big basketball schools. We need to raise wholly hell on this one. Someone find the NCAA phone number an e-mail address and let's light them up.

**DaddyMac** · 10-26-2007, 08:37 AM

From the NCAA website - Our Mission. Core Values:

"An inclusive culture that fosters equitable participation for student-athletes and career opportunities for coaches and administrators from diverse backgrounds."

Might as well take that down - inclusive and equitable my arse!

Like I said, if Lucca were one of Coach K's recruits or Pete Carroll's recruits - this wouldn't even be an issue. And that other poor kid over at WSU would be eligible to play as well, just to protect the recruit at the "big school"

**psycln11** · 10-26-2007, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by 4VR4CY

Also, please send the petition link to all of your contacts that will sign it.

I will be faxing a letter to the NCAA today. I just cannot believe this. I know how upset we are, can you imagine being Lucca? Trying your best to follow every letter of the rules so that you can achieve your dream of playing basketball at a school in the US and having this happen!

Cottler talked about his on the radio early this am. He said it was ridiculous.

Are you kidding me?? Cotlar took a stand on something?

He's usualy got one nut on each side of the fence he's straddling.

**4VR4CY** · 10-26-2007, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by psycln11

Are you kidding me?? Cotlar took a stand on something?

He's usualy got one nut on each side of the fence he's straddling.

I was pretty amazed that he gave his opinion on this as well.

**CloneAggie** · 10-26-2007, 08:45 AM

Someone needs to make sure this starts getting some national exposure. Mike and Mike may be a good place to start; maybe Outside the Lines; something like that.

**rd4isu** · 10-26-2007, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by Knownothing

Jackson from Kansas took 6 grand and some clothes a few years ago and he got 6 games suspension. Lucca took nothing and got a year. THis is obviously biased toward the big basketball schools. We need to raise wholly hell on this one. Someone find the NCAA phone number an e-mail address and let's light them up.

Bingo. Who is policing the NCAA? They have once again gone unchecked in their abuse of power to the detriment of a good kid. Miles Brand and his cronies don't have these kids best interest in mind and it's glaringly obvious. Someone needs to bring the Evil Empire down a rung.

**isucyfan** · 10-26-2007, 08:47 AM

Does anyone know if there has ever been a successful appeal in a situation similar to this? Obviously C.J. Bruton didn't win his appeal.

**bawbie** · 10-26-2007, 08:48 AM

How on earth can someone give a maximum sentence for something like this? Sure he somehow may have violated the letter of the rule, but that's why you have sentencing ranges, so you don't have to give everyone the maximum. This is just totally ridiculous. It is just like the CJ thing all over again. That ruined a season too. I clearly remember the Lee Love point guard days...

**cybsball20** · 10-26-2007, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by bawbie

How on earth can someone give a maximum sentence for something like this? Sure he somehow may have violated the letter of the rule, but that's why you have sentencing ranges, so you don't have to give everyone the maximum. This is just totally ridiculous. It is just like the CJ thing all over again. That ruined a season too. I clearly remember the Lee Love point guard days...

I'm guessing he is wishing he would have taken some money if he was going to get suspended for it anyway!

**Oldgeezer** · 10-26-2007, 08:49 AM

Other than the Reggie Bush incident, can anyone give examples of Kansas or Duke or North Carolina using a professional player? Isn't this what the NCAA is saying? If a team pays it's players, that team is not amateur. Doesn't matter whether all the players receive equal compensation. Given the speed at which the NCAA operates, even if they did listen to reason and reverse or reduce this penalty, the season will be long over before anything happens. We will have to find a way to win without Staiger this season.

**Knownothing** · 10-26-2007, 08:49 AM

of the NCCA people. If we can get over 3 million votes to vote for Cy. I immagine with the help of Washington States fans we can jam there phone lines and e-mail for a few weeks and demand action. This is a bad deal and they are picking on them. Does someone on this site know how to get e-mail and phone numbers for these idiots. I don't care if it's the secretary to the NCAA. Just need to slam them with complaints. Also once we get the info we need it posted on ever Cyclone site and Cougars site and get there help. I am sick of the NCAA taking billions from these schools. It's time to speak up and get it done.

**Clone96** · 10-26-2007, 08:51 AM

Between us and the Washington State people we ought generate enough outrage!!

C'mon Clones & Cougs, let's the the NCAA that....

WE'RE AS MAD AS HELL AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!!!!!!

**Knownothing** · 10-26-2007, 08:51 AM

Other than the Reggie Bush incident, can anyone give examples of Kansas or Duke or North Carolina using a professional player? Isn't this what the NCAA is saying? If a team pays it's players, that team is not amateur. Doesn't matter whether all the players receive equal compensation. Given the speed at which the NCAA operates, even if they did listen to reason and reverse or reduce this penalty, the season will be long over before anything happens. We will have to find a way to win without Staiger this season.

Yeah the kid from Kansas took 6 grand from a booster. That makes him professional. If you don't take money. Your not professional.

**flander1649** · 10-26-2007, 08:53 AM

It is probably too early out there for too many of the WSU fans to be upset yet but there is not much talk about it on their board. It is only 7 out there though.

**kentkel** · 10-26-2007, 08:55 AM

Quotes from the Rag:
"This is the first year the NCAA Amateurism Certification program, used to determine the amateur status of domestic and international freshmen, has been in existence."
"Staiger, a 6-foot-5 shooting guard who was expected to fill an important role on this year's team, completed the online registration form required for certification on May 24. Snyder [ISU Assoc AD of Compliance] got involved in the process Aug. 21.

The NCAA didn't interview Junge [Staiger's AAU coach] until Sept. 4.

"The process has been excruciatingly slow," Snyder said.

Here's my beef: Just like the drinking age increase during the fall of 1986 was "grandfathered in," I believe that this rule should also be grandfathered in. There simply was not adequate time to do this fairly for those involved/affected. I could have seen them coming back with a ruling of keeping Lucca out for 5-6 games, but to penalize him that severely, this late in the game, is CRUEL and UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT!!