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Old 10-31-2007, 10:50 AM   #16
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Re: Bowl projections

Originally Posted by EggMcClone View Post
Do you just make this stuff up? The Big 12 has 7 bowl tie-ins, 6 teams that have already qualified, three team that need one more win, and one that needs two. The Big 10+1 has the exact same numbers.

The basic truth of college football these days is it's really easy to qualify for a bowl. Four cupcakes and find two conference wins and you're there.
Yeah, but to answer for Southern, that's proof positive of how bad the Big XII is compared to how strong the Big 11 is.

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Re: Bowl projections

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Many of those 6-6 "bowl eligible" teams do this: Load up on cupcakes and go 4-0 or 3-1 in the non-conference. Go 2-6 or 3-5 in the conference. It's not really that hard. Iowa schedules layup games against NIU, Syracuse, and Western Michigan. That's 3 wins there. They play Minnesota who is worse than those cupcakes. That's 4 wins. So really all they have to do is beat to bottom feeders in the Big 10 to go to a bowl.

And this scenario is the same for 3 or 4 Big 10 teams. Very, very weak.
Well, last year Iowa lost to Northern Illinois and probably should have lost to Syracuse. They always play us non-conference as well.

It's hard to argue about Iowa's non-conference schedule when we are scheduling Toledo, Kent State and a 1-AA team.

As far as the Big 10 goes, it's not good this year. Plain and simple.

BCS conference wins for the Big 10:
Washington (2-6)
Washington State (3-5)
Syracuse (x2) (2-6)
Pitt (3-5)
Notre Dame (x4) (1-7)

Other wins:
14 vs MAC
1 vs CUSA
1 vs Sunbelt
6 vs 1AA

BCS conference losses for the Big 10:
Oregon (7-1)
Iowa State (1-8)
Missouri (7-1)
Duke (1-7)

Not to mention two losses to 1-AA schools, one of which was by a team that is currently tied for the conference lead, and may end up going to the BCS to represent the conference, and two more to mid-majors.

This is the weakest the Big 10 has been in a LONG time. There is at least parity in the conference. Ohio State and Michigan are clearly the two best teams, followed by a second "tier" of Wisconsin, Penn State, Purdue and Illinois, and then a third tier of NW, Indiana, Iowa and Michigan State with Minnesota bringing up the rear. Nobody there is really all that good.

Also just FYI:
1AA Teams played by conference (Record):

WAC: 10 (10-0)
Big 10: 8 (6-2)
Big 12: 8 (7-1)
SEC: 7 (7-0)
ACC: 7 (7-0)
MAC: 7 (5-2)
CUSA: 7 (5-2)
Big East: 6 (6-0)
MWC: 4 (4-0)
1A Independents: 4 (3-1)
PAC 10: 2 (2-0)
Sun Belt: 1 (0-1)
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