I am on my way to the netherworld on a speeding toboggin..a glass of gin...and women of questionable integrity on the back.
Originally Posted by colocy
I think Deace had something to do with it.
Actually, in OT I was beginning to think that the season WAS going to hell...an 0-1 start to the season would have been awfully close to it.
I'm sure they think they're doing something important by 'spreading the word' but I think there are probably better ways of attracting an audience than telling everybody they're going to hell. I know that doesn't make me want to explore their preachings too much. Afterall, if I'm such a bad person that I'm already going to hell, why should I care or pay attention? It's like going to death row and telling the inmates that they're going to hell if they don't change their ways. Um, I think you may be a little late:)
I guess my biggest question is why do they think we are all going to hell and they aren't? Is it because we're going to a football game on a Thursday night instead picketting in front of one? I guess I just really don't see how one can be so blatently arrogant in their religious thinkings. Afterall, isn't that kind of stereotyping what most religions try to be against?
Anyways, it was a great atmoshpere and I don't think a bunch of drunk college kids are going to change their ways because of a sign telling them they're sinners and low-lifes.
A program isn't built on one player and it doesn't succeed because of one player, thus a program won't fail if it doesn't get that one player.
What defines "peacefully" in this situation, though? Just the mere lack of physical violence? When I walked by those idiots they were screaming at other ISU fans walking by them and berating them. One screamed at a mother with a small child that she was going to hell for being a single mother (just because a husband/mate wasn't with her doesn't mean there isn't one). Not very peaceful, IMO. If they were just standing there with their moronic signs, fine.....but screaming at people walking by? A bit much.....
Originally Posted by burn587
LOL.... did they ever explain to anybody why we were going to hell, or were they just saying that. All I heard them saying was "repent, repent" which doesn't really bother me that much. That screaming at the mother for being single just because she didn't have a man with her, that is funny and sad at the same time.
anybody actually grab a packet or w/e they were handing? I'd like to know who they were representing and what they believe because people like this are the ones who give Christians a bad name for the above mentioned reasons...
I'm a practicing Christian as well, and I couldn't do anything but laugh when I saw that, while at the same time being angry at them. I immediately thought it was Fred Phelp's thugs. Why they were picketing at Jack Trice, we may never know. All I know is that on the band's march to the stadium, we had to go straight through the middle of a group of them. One woman started jogging alongside the drumline, yelling at us. She said- and I am dead serious about this- that we were going to hell because "drums are the tools of Satan" because we "play the tune of pagan orgies, unwed fornication, and sodomy". See, that's funny, because I'm pretty sure that a couple of verses in Psalms say to 'praise the Lord with trumpets and loud cymbals'.
I really hope they weren't expecting to gain any ground by shouting stuff like that, because it just made me want to do the whole crowd a favor and cold-clock her upside the head with my cymbal.
That is what really irked me- that they didn't even have a reason, no matter how far-fetched it may have been. At least they would have been nutjobs with a vaguely-defined purpose. Now they're just purposeless nutjobs.
Originally Posted by colocy
I grabbed one of the fliers. It's actually nothing unusual. It's a testimony from a former football player at Central Michigan who stopped following the world and began following ******.
Here's the address on the flier:
PO Box 10121
Eugene, OR 97440-2121
Just for the record, ******'s ministry was about turning the world right-side up. He didn't start with the government, or the schools, or the justice system; the first place he went was to the temple (church) and began flipping tables.
He didn't tell the immoral people that they were going to hell, but he did tell the "religious" people that they didn't get it at all (he even called them snakes and vipers). He spent much of his time confronting the religious types of the day and simply telling the immoral that there was a better way and that they were putting their faith in temporary things that would eventually hurt them or in thigns that provided only half of a life. The answer? You will find a full life in me and it's free, anyone can do it.
Perhaps the people at the game were simply going for shock value. I don't know why people would take such a message and make it seem offensive and "whako".
Like any group, there are people on the fringe and Christianity is no different.
I actually thought the signs were cool--anywhere to see the Word in public but the berating of the people walking past was unscriptural. It was totally out of place with the signs they had. As everywhere there were some people that fit what they were saying but if they were there to "save" people all they were doing was driving them away. If they are there this week I will get their tract and check who they were representing. I don't think it's God, it's some radical angry misguided ministry.
I saw much of this as well, and as much as I respect free speach, not sure that telling EVERYONE at the North Gate as they entered the stadium (10 feet from gate) that they were going to hell should really be allowed (isn't that private property). I am a Christian and completely offended. Wonder if restrictions on how close they can 'spout' that info can be placed. Not sure how football relates to hell, saw a ton of great ISU families enjoying a super night of entertainment. Anybody know, can something be done about this? Really don't want to subject my 10 year and 13 year old daughters to this as they enter the game. great way to get introduced into my first year of being season ticket holder.
i wonder how they would feel about the touchdown jesus hehe
I really don't have much room to talk, as I'm Agnostic, but I was really disgusted too.
Sure I couldn't care less about anything that involves religion, church, etc., but as I walked past, and while I do respect what their intentions were, I was thinking "What the hell? You guys are just taking it too far. I'm going to hell because I choose not to follow anything? Bite me."
The first one I saw was "Obey Jesus or Perish!" Well, if I'm still standing after 20 years, I think I'm doing okay.
Passing: 124/273, 1560 yds, 8 TDs
Rushing: 441 yds, 3 TDs
Receiving: 98 Rec, 1106 yds, 3 TDs
I saw them as well and held my beer up as if toasting them as I went by. They just ignored me and kept yelling. It was so odd and seemed so counter-productive that I wondered if they were possibly a group of students doing a sociology experiment.
Obviously those rabid bible shakers are going to hell in a hurry because the Cyclone fans had a game to play and threats could not get in their way. (Sticks and stones, etc....)
Do not be concerned unless they showed up for the UNLV game. Then I might offer they live near Ames. That would concern the fans. They might have to look at them every game then. "Oh poor tailgaters, repent" every game. Then they would enter the category of Hare Krishnas in bothering people at the airports.
CFH HMagic bball season.
Let my fred's Four Horsemen ride.
Is it just me or did the pope attend the World Cup??? Similar situation??? Do you think they would yell at arguably the most devout christian alive? I dont. They have no grounds to yell at people like that, and if I had children there I would have exercised my right to free speech, if you know what I mean.